Multi-level marketing - Wikipedia, the free encyclopediaOriginally Posted by Mr. McGibletts
its not really a bad thing in itself, but some companies have given it a really bad rep...............on a different note ever hear of a "tupperware party" ?
Thanks Mike.
Current boat: 2008 Ranger Z520 Merc 250 Pro XS
no problem, I have 0 experience or knowledge about Amsoil so I have no comments to that company/ product............I will however run if someone ever asks me I need more energy, want to live longer, have a better attention span, sleep better, stay awake longer, loss weight, gain muscle, catch more fishetc from drinking a juice from a newly discovered fruit that costs 15-25 dollars a bottle if you buy 1, but if you become a dealer it will cost just 10 and you can sell the extra ones and put money in your pocket while you enjoy the life changing juice
I surf the web so much better with my Tommy Copper wrist band on.
Man you guys sure are hard on someone that is a member & supportor of BBC. I have never tried Amsoil myself, but know several that use their products the same as Lucas, Stabil or engine branded products for our outboards that most of us use. What about fishing gear sales. They are bought from a parent company or manufacturer, sold to distributorships, then dealers & then to us the consumers. Is this not basicly the same thing, but not looked down upon ??? Seems to me several fellas here are either dealers for gear we all use & then sell to us. Wonder where they get their stuff they sell & do the manufacturer set an msrp price ??? Just doesn't seem like a reason to diss a sponsor to me that lots of folks like their product. Maybe I'm wrong in my thinking, but seems some have a ha**on for some worse than others because they know better themselves than anyone that has used their products.
I agree Les, Pretty embarrassing really.
I have been using and will continue using Amsoil HP injector in my HPDI. I'm a firm believer in full synthetic oil in everything and think Amsoil is one of the best despite what some internet experts think
AMSOIL HP Marine Synthetic 2-Stroke Oil
Click on MArine E-tec Field study link . Also includes pics of a motor taken apart
Thanks for the link.
why am I seeing so many discussions on various sites talking about voiding warranties when using amsoil products? Whats the reason why amsoil isn't api certified.
I don't think so. My guess is Conrad drummed up some business and made people aware of his product. It is the lounge and usually when you post stuff here you should expect comments all over the board. I actually looked up a bunch of stuff about Amsoil I would never have know. I will say Thanks to Conrad for the fun and wish him the best. In the mean time I gotta figure out how to get this stuff off the wife
Don't use Amsoil at your own risk. Used it on my Yamaha for 17 years and zero engine problems. Also have it in my truck and lower unit. Very satisfied customer. My friends use it on their HPDI's and diesels.
Ok, I'll take a deep breath again and reply to this one since you feel the need to ask this in the open lounge and not PM me as I'm sure it was answered in those threads just like it has been repeatedly answered here.
Amsoil meets API requirements , such is why they recently reformulated their oils to meet the new GM Dexos standard and the new API SN standard. API certification cost $$$ 10 of thousands of dollars. As mentioned many times, Amsoil has a huge R & D dept. They are constantly testing new products. But also, trying to find the best value for a product they use to formulate their oil. When you get API certified or TCW-3 certified , you are now LOCKED into that formulation. You can not Vary from it at all. So If a supplier of a certain ingredient raises their price, they would not be able to find another supplier.
Knock on wood, I have never, in 6 years, had anyone call me for any engine failure or damage, whether it was a vehicle, boat , lawn mover , anything saying a engine had blown. If you click the link I provided above, you will see a copy of Amsoil's warranty. They would cover a engine problem if the mechanic can prove it was caused by the oil. Mechanics on here, even Amsoil hating mechanics, will admit that 99% of the time, oil does not cause failures. It may lead to other issues.
To me, this is like any other product asked about here in the lounge on BBC. Whether its someone asking about satelitte service, oil, motor, internet service, cell phone brand, cell phone carrier. It becomes a bashing thread. No one agrees on which one is best. Basically, if I wasnt selling or succesfull here over 6 years, I wouldnt still be here. I sell a lot of oil, grease, gear lubes and fuel treatments. Every year I have gotten bigger and sometimes can;t keep up. If Amsoil was selling crap that was blowing and ruining engines, they wouldnt have stayed in business for 40 years. I've used it since 93 and my dad has used it since 78. Amsoil has had to build new plants, and werhouse's just to keep up.
I've been told in my training classes when most dealerships try to say oil caused engine failure, they have no idea about Amsoil so its easy to blame it on , what they think is a no name company. When Amsoil's technicians call them , the dealerships normally back track their original accusation.
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My Amsoil story: Got some free samples given to me at the super Chevy show in Bristol Tn. First product I used was Bar and Chain oil for my Stihl Chainsaw, couldn't believe how much better it was than the Stihl brand bar and chain oil. I thought, if their put this much effort into bar and chain oil, then their motor oil must be good also.
Then I got the Sabre 2 cycle. It is to be mixed at 100:1 ratio, my Stihl trimmers specifically state 50:1 mix. Naturally I was worried. I eventually tried it, 3 years no problems yet and I do a lot of trimming, sometimes for hours on end. Trimmers run leaner, less smoke, and still have the same lubrication protection as I did using Stihl oil at 50:1. After 3 seasons on the same 2 trimmers, if there was gonna be a lubrication problem, it would have shown itself by now.
Also if you guys use WD-40 (who doesn't) Amsoil make a product called MP (metal Protector) that is way better than WD.
Been running Amsoil in my E-TEC, truck, mowers, weedeaters , use their wheelbearing grease on the boat trailer ,and truck. Amsoil , made in Superior, Wisconsin. Flat out, in performs like Amsoil says it will. Thank you Conrad for being a sponsor of BBC.
Thanks guys. Thats why this place is great.. But no matter what proof is in black and white, what testing in lab or real world is shown, or 100's of testimonials, haters here will hate. Like I said earlier, every time someone ask about anything, whether its Dish network vs Directv, Galaxy vs iphone, mono vs fluro, there is always a hater... I've got countless of PM's from guys saying dont even entertain the stuff guys are spouting on here. But I'm the kind of person that when I have nothing to hide, I dont mind defending it.
Now if Amsoil can come out with a 25w50 for the verado, I'd give it a try. I wonder if the 20w50 would work well for 6k+ rpms marine applications.
CLOSED GAMEFISHING SEASONS IN WI HAS NO BIOLOGICAL CREEDENCE!!!
So it would be ok in your eyes next time say there is a tackle trap thread in the lounge as an example about how great a place it is etc etc and some one gave an unsolicited opinion of how bad it was and people piled on ? Personally I think its uncalled for, especially in a thread where he wasn't pimping anyone for an opinion of how Amsoil does in the marketing dept and some seem to think we all set on the edge of our computer chairs everyday and wait for their business savvy to flow on the boards. Conrad nor anyone else asked "what do you think of Amsoil?" or anything similar. I for one am glad that every time someone makes a post about a certain sole product sponsor that it doesn't get cut down like this has.
Why the deep breath? I had a simple question. When I did a search I came up with two types of topics, one was how great of a product and the other was warranty being voided. If I wanted to stir the pot there are much better ways to go about it with amsoil.
Love the Amsoil HP injector oil, just wish it wasn't 16.00 a quart at the Canadian tire in Ontario. Looking for a dealer close by.
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