Depression?

[LexIS307]

i can only say its something ive lived with, its up and down w/anexity doubles..get some help

[Hair Jig]

<table width="90%" cellspacing=0 cellpadding=0 align=center><tr><td>Quote, originally posted by smalljawguy &raquo;</td></tr><tr><td class="quote">

While I am a firm believer in Gods love and grace I'm going to disagree with you here. If he had cancer and needed treatment would you say that the bible was the best option and forego treatment? Depression is a physical disease that has a major affect on your mental state of mind. While I agree that God and the bible are a very good thing to rely on, you also need some help sometime. </td></tr></table>

Whoa! Nobody told him to pass on getting a medical opinion. He remarked about WORRYING. I'm not saying that a person shouldn't have concerns, because a normal human will always have things to be concerned about. But if the worrying part is coming from spiritual loneliness, then spiritual help is readily available. Medical treatment is always going to be a part of our lives ... with good reason.

You took my advice and words COMPLETELY out of context.

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[smalljawguy]

Gotcha. Was responding to someone that said that you're post and the bible was the only way to go. Wasn't being combative but being as how I've dealt with this personally I can tell you that many (not you) don't understand this illness. I agree with you 10000000% that God and the bible are unbelievably helpful when we are struggling. But we also sometimes will need medical intervention.

[SasquatchTriton]

Even though my wife and i are new in our faith, we are believers. Maybe, just maybe this is a sign for me that i need to take the next step in my path, maybe i need to follow a little closer and realize all the things i am blessed with instead of dwellin on trivial things...

[allenpro190]

i'm dealing with depression also. i'm taking meds for it & counseling. both are working for me. i'm the sole provider in my home. i have a wife & 4 boys. it does get stressful working, worrying about bills, just everyday living. my advice is add counseling talking to someone not connected with you helps alot. i tell my wife bits & pieces what i discuss with counselor. the biggest thing is stop stressing over things you can't control. do what you can & let everything else go. in my life i've decided getting upset over things i can't control is only hurting me. for example my health insurance has doubled. i was beyond pissed off when this happened.
i went off on my wife & kids why?? they didn't do anything to me. i decided right then that i have to fix myself. thats what i'm doing now. my thought is
i'm to important to my family to let something that i can't fix or control upset me.
thats what i say to myself everyday.
working for me so far. hope you get better soon.

[smalljawguy]

<table width="90%" cellspacing=0 cellpadding=0 align=center><tr><td>Quote, originally posted by allenpro190 &raquo;</td></tr><tr><td class="quote"> i'm dealing with depression also. i'm taking meds for it & counseling. both are working for me. i'm the sole provider in my home. i have a wife & 4 boys. it does get stressful working, worrying about bills, just everyday living. my advice is add counseling talking to someone not connected with you helps alot. i tell my wife bits & pieces what i discuss with counselor. the biggest thing is stop stressing over things you can't control. do what you can & let everything else go. in my life i've decided getting upset over things i can't control is only hurting me. for example my health insurance has doubled. i was beyond pissed off when this happened.
i went off on my wife & kids why?? they didn't do anything to me. i decided right then that i have to fix myself. thats what i'm doing now. my thought is
i'm to important to my family to let something that i can't fix or control upset me.
thats what i say to myself everyday.
working for me so far. hope you get better soon.

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Well said brother. This guy gets it. He knows how it works and what help means to someone in our conditions. The bad thing with depression is that not only do you suffer, your family suffers too. Good luck to you.

[haveme1]

For me I find "I am what I practice" I try to practice being upbeat and positive.

[smalljawguy]

<table width="90%" cellspacing=0 cellpadding=0 align=center><tr><td>Quote, originally posted by haveme1 &raquo;</td></tr><tr><td class="quote">For me I find "I am what I practice" I try to practice being upbeat and positive.</td></tr></table>

Do you think that those that deal with depression would like to have that option? It's not that they don't want to, they are not capable at times.

[Hair Jig]

<table width="90%" cellspacing=0 cellpadding=0 align=center><tr><td>Quote, originally posted by SasquatchTriton &raquo;</td></tr><tr><td class="quote">Even though my wife and i are new in our faith, we are believers. Maybe, just maybe this is a sign for me that i need to take the next step in my path, <u>maybe i need to follow a little closer and realize all the things i am blessed with instead of dwellin on trivial things...</u></td></tr></table>

THERE YOU GO Derek!

"Trivial" things can be varying to everyone. What some view as a total catastrophe, others simply shrug off. My way of thinking is this: I fix what I can fix, and what I can't fix, I don't worry about. <u>That's not to say I have a lackadaisical attitude, however</u>. Quite the opposite. We just purchased a new home ... my son starts college in 18 months ... the economy sucks and so does our IRA ... so I have plenty of "concerns". But life is short, and every day that you don't find SOMETHING to smile about becomes just ........ another day.

You know, I try to find something each and every day to be thankful for. A wife that I definitely do NOT deserve, a son who is studious and respectful, a moderate financial situation, no debt ...... Every day when I get out of bed I do something that I learned when I went to "Car Dealer's School" .......... I look in the mirror and get a "Checkup. From the Neck up". Attitude is everything. If it takes a little medication to help you get on the way up, then so be it. Just don't think that ANY medication is going to change your life.

[cw95bronc]

I have been dealing with it, sort of, for 20 yrs and counting. Just before retiring from the Navy is when things started to get a little tougher. We were not in good financial shape and still are not. Probably will never be cause "Murphy" is my middle name.

2yrs into retirement and got settled back in HSV everything finally just exploded. Worked on gov't contract for 2 yrs like you said 10 to 14 hrs a day everyday, sometimes would not even see daylight, get home eat supper go to bed just hoping to get 2 or 3 hrs sleep.

Friends and family got the short end of the fuse. Did not matter what it was about, just unleashed on them. That is when the wife and I decided I needed help.

Been taking Effexor for the last 5yrs while I am just barely keeping stable I am not in a state of just absolute happiness either, I am better than what I use to be. Until 2 weeks ago I lost my 5th job in 7yrs. Some my fault, others out of my control.

So I know where you are comming from. I do go to church while it makes me totally relaxed I know still need more help.

Lastly, sorry for the Novel. When it was the worst I did not want to hunt, fish, bowl or really even want to be sociable. Just more or less existed somtimes still feel that way.

People, if you need help get it, I have had 3 friends commit suiside. Sometimes it is hard to reconize it until it is to late.

Hope the best for you , sounds like you are heading in the right direction. BTW I to have a great wife and 2 kids that understand.

[Z20fireman]

Your to young to be stressed when you truly are BLESSED!!! The only thing I really can say and no it isn't happening to me but my MIL is on meds for depression due to divorce after 31 yrs and trust me when I say this medications isn't the answer!!! There is some really good advice in previous post and it's gonna take time but if you have made it thru the financial slump still got a roof over your family and food on the table then thank the good lord cause there are many people that don't have any of those things!!! I know it's easy to say cause I'm not in your situation but sit back take a deep breath and look at the big picture...You are young and life is full of difficult things if it were easy then we wouldn't be discussing this so get your head back up put a smile on your face hug and kiss your wife and child every chance you get! You said your a believer so pray about things everyday not just when your down God listens ALL the time!!!

[UBF1]

Glad to see you are getting help. These things can get out of hand. You are a hell of a man didnt give up did what you had to. Good luck and hang in there.

[FlyinSooner]

<table width="90%" cellspacing=0 cellpadding=0 align=center><tr><td>Quote, originally posted by R.D. &raquo;</td></tr><tr><td class="quote">


Anxiety Disorder.....could be short term. Several meds out there......Wife takes Xanax for it </td></tr></table>

yep! My wife has the same thing "generalized anxiety disorder" She can't shut her brain down and just sleep. Xanax works wonders for her!!!!

[SasquatchTriton]

I think id like to take a minute here and just thank each and every one of you guys for all the well wishes and for encouraging me to keep my head up. I have read every post & every IM you have written.

Idk what it is, i took my first zoloft last night, the doc said maybe wait 4 weeks to see a good change but honestly after reading everyones posts i think THEY have helped more than anything.

I just know drugs dont work this fast. I think hearing that im not alone and being able to get this off of my chest has actually done wonders over the past couple days. I am more than fortunate of what i have, only being 24.

Right now, i feel no stress and no worry. First time in a long time. Very strange. And its not just because its friday either, we are working tomm.

I just wanted you all to know that you have helped tremendously (sp?) and i will see how the next couple of days go. Maybe i can kick this funk idk but im feeling better than ever right about now

[Hair Jig]

<table width="90%" cellspacing=0 cellpadding=0 align=center><tr><td>Quote, originally posted by SasquatchTriton &raquo;</td></tr><tr><td class="quote">
Right now, i feel no stress and no worry. First time in a long time. Very strange. </td></tr></table>

ALWAYS helps.

[hatcreek]

Good deal, Derek.

[Rodney2100]

Look at the good things in life. In the morning make a list of (what's good about this). (This) is the situation you put yourself in. The list will include (what is good) about the situation you went through. This will take a some thought. Sit with your wife and agree on the top 5 - 7 things on this list. Type this list up and keep a copy you and your wife can read every day, several times a day. Work with each other not to put yourself back in this situation. Next, pray every day you do not have to go through this again. Thank the lord for your family and getting you through those tough times. In one week you will have peace of mind and be ready for the spawn. Continue to pray and every thing will work out. Take care, Rodney

[bassraider10]

Where to begin bass fisherman.

I am retired and have lots of time to think and I have arrived at tbis health mental or physical is the most important thing in life.

More important then houses, cars, boats, etc, etc.
These items can be replaced in time but bad health mental or physical can some time not be replaced as you get older your body wears out.

I suffer mentally and physcially but if you seek help religious, doctors, etc, etc that is the answer. Everyone needs help believe it or not.

God Bless and keep fighting life it is bxxxxxx.