Nope, the gonna let the anglers do it.
Gonna give the Big Bass anglers bags full of 5" fingerlings to dump at their favorite fishing spots.
Does anybody see the problem here?
My favorite fishing spot, during a Big Bass event, would be where I think A BIG BASS LIVES.
So, I'm do dump a bag of fingerlings here?
(substitute "Food" for the word "Fingerling" at any time).
Then again, Most of em should be safe considering Sam's take on the participants.
I think the new secret color is "A-Rig"..........
Oh my.......Houston we have a problem.
5. ETHICS: Contestants/Teams may not Âbait or direct
others to Âbait brushpiles, bays, weed edges, bridges, rockpiles, rip-rap etc. Baiting will be defined as ÂThe application
of light, food, dog food, fish food, corn, baitfish, crayfish, frogs, toads, insects, etc. (ETC. Means FINGERLINGS) to a specific area of the lake in
order to attract baitfish or legal bass to that area. ÂSeeding and ÂBaiting will be grounds for expulsion from all
Get5bass Summer Series events.
Sounds like "chumming" to me
I think the new secret color is "A-Rig"..........
I'm sure as long as you aren't baiting for two tournaments at once, everything would be ok..
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<table width="90%" cellspacing=0 cellpadding=0 align=center><tr><td>Quote, originally posted by cmclairday2 »</td></tr><tr><td class="quote">I'm sure as long as you aren't baiting for two tournaments at once, everything would be ok..
I can shoot Dr. Pepper out both nostrils as once!!
I think the new secret color is "A-Rig"..........
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I can shoot Dr. Pepper out both nostrils as once!!
LOL...I don't think there is any stocking going on at Dardanelle...which explain why it sux.I think once the summertime is here, those fish lock up or down to other pool...
Well Framk cant post anything about the big bass classic because by toting these fish in bags when some ppl maybe in the boat longer than me at weigh in this is causing rigors for the fish. And oh yeah at the big bass classic you can keep fish you catch to eat... Can you say a free bag of sardines and lets go fishing.
AGFC provides quite a bit(the majority of work) to get this project done along with ABA and ADC.
We appreciate ya'll helping us(ABA) out with this. Additionally this year there will be stocking of all odd numbered pools in the Arkansas River from fish raised at the Lonoke Hatchery. Next year evens and so on every year. This was approved last year by AGFC particularly Colton Dennis that heads up the Black Bass Program here in Arkansas.
Stocking these fish in good habitat likely greatly increases chances of survival versus being shot out of a pipe at a boat ramp.
Anyone that would like to put something back into this sport/hobby is free to im me- plenty of ways for folks like us to contribute as most folks just complain and dont contribute.
We(AGFC/ABA/AHTD/Dumas club) are also coordinating a weigh in facility at Dumas that could use your time or money or talents-
Thanks for bringing this up!
Ward
Thanks for the info booger doc but the question at hand is is it illegal everyone always expects somebody trying to burn some one.....................well nevermind
Ward - it was great seeing ya' last Sat. Congrats on the 2nd place finish.
Jstew as you know we got lucky- I figured that was you when I saw you upriver earlier in the day-
Caleb no one would see this as cheating. While I am no threat to win a tournament but I do know the rules for most circuits.
As an update- seined the ponds today at Cummins. Filled all AGFC trucks for all weigh in sites in less than 2 hours. Seined up far over 100,000 bass. Brood stock looked awesome and were returned to river.
Pool 2 will also get all of the smaller nursery ponds fish and what remained in the larger pond.
Great day for anglers.
You Dardanelle boys need the same up there. We all need to work on that one-
Ward - any stocking efforts for the Maumelle & LR Pools. With the fast water over the past few years - seems the fish numbers are down. Are the TNT's picking up - haven't read any reports lately.
The whole system gets stocked with this program. Around 30,000 fish stocked from each weigh in site for Big Bass. I personally put out about 2000 in pool 6 myself. Fish caught today all looked great too. No problems that i know of on the truck in LR.
Fishing in LR pool has been great believe it or not!
Pool 7 even better
Pool 5 good too.
Lotsa folks catchin 30-40(yep) fish a night when the flow is around 50.
I caught 4 real fast this pm after the big bass was over. One about 3 and and a keeper spot.
The river is recovering down here faster than anyone could imagine possible.
Taking 13-14 to win any tues nite. Not bad in 3 hours partic with some goin up and fishing only 1 hour.
hey guys dont post much but here goes
Ive lived on Dardanelle for around 10 years and somethings not right. The river may be recovering elsewhere but its not looking good here went sunday and did catch a bunch of fish but most looked like they ate my crankbait because they have not eaten in 3 weeks poor poor poor ran all the jettys in the lake found 1 with any shad on it and i havent seen a shad in a weedbed in a year or so. We might need a shad stocking program or i think alot of the fingerlings will be food before they are keepers
arkbuck- This is the summertime and the fish are gonna look poor. It's not always the health of the fish that makes them look this way. As you know ppl loose weight in the summer, were more active and dont eat near as much. As for the shad problem thats not why fish are down either. Shad just like bass will move out in deeper water they are there you just havent been at the right place right time to see them. I'm not bashing you but it doesnt matter where you go right now a 15 inch fish is gonna struggle to weigh 2pds
I've seen the shad recover very well from the LR pool south over the past two years. Three weeks ago in mirasach there were big schools of them everywhere. They were out in open water and nowhere near the weedbeds though. Pulled a fish like you're talking about from the weedbeds - it went 5-12 and looked like it should have been 7+ but was skinny. I figure it's the time of year.
pac no offense taken
but like i said i have fished here all my life and lived on the lake for over 10 years now and fish it 3 days a week i know the difference between what the summer river fish look like and the fish we caught they were unusually poor. the areas we were fishing should have and have had in the past the shad stacked up due to the current. not many around and several years ago you could go out any summer morning and find the weedbeds literally boiling with shad, the shad are not there like they were. My buddies that catch them for bait are having a terrible time finding them in the places where it used to take no time to fill up a bucket. from everything i understand it was the shad population in the river that made the fishery so good. i realize the shad will come back and there is no need to stock them but man it will take a long time for the fish to grow without an abundant food source.
Shad spawns as we all know are frequent. I have spoken at lenght with another man from your neck of the woods that feels the same.
Overall I think a lot of folks are frustrated with Dardanelle as of the last 2 years.
A couple of observations from me alone-
1) I thought the whole river system would be horrible this year based on electro data I have seen and coversations subsequent to this and results last year
2) The worst pool in the river(LR) is actually much better than last year- as are others which is certainly good
3) This river has a cycle that is hard to explain or predict
4) Observations like yours to me speak to our inability to know what the problem is exactly but many recognize a problem at times or at least wish we could level our lows and highs at times in terms of successful fishing. Of course because our rivers are so fluctuant it's hard.
5) Frank and Jeremy Risley and others have worked for 2 years at least to set up a regular sampling program on all pools-
6) Alternating evens and odds will be stocked in the river each year because of AGFC concern
Overall I think because of the pressure Dardanelle has and does see a number of things should happen(just in my opinion only!)
1) All tournament directors register for FREE with the AGFC.
2) You elect not to register and you're running a tournament with more than 20 boats you get a ticket(like ALA)
3) Regulations do not allow tournaments without proper fish care in place and without turning in an ATIP card(like ALA)- with fish data on it- caught,dead, total weight
4) Tournament frequency needs to controlled as does fish care from June to August.
5) Dardanelle needs a dedicated stocking source for Bass similar to the situation we have at Cummins for pool 2.
6) THE BEST SOLUTION FOR THE ENTIRE SYSTEM IS HABITAT RESTORATION! However it is the most costly and dependent on USACE which isnt easy to get $ out of these days-
Unfortunately I think 1-5 are the best way to handle this lake if we want a premier fishery
1-4 will p.o. most folks but it works elsewhere. Right now it's hard to know how good or bad Dardanelle is because so much REAL data is missing.
#5 for me is a no brainer- we are gonna work hard on this once we get the Pendelton tournament facility done.
#6 Stands as a pipe dream until the 12' channel project begins.
Overall I'd just say that all of us need to get involved. We've got the manpower to do a ton.
Ward
Off of soapbox now- sorry
couple ot things
when does the 12' channel project begin? i hadnt heard that. the corps is coming to inspect my dock this week so she may know.
something definitely needs to be done about the pressure but it will be a hard row to hoe. unfortunately the only thing that will eliminate the pressure is for the fishing to go to heck and the tx will slow down.
isnt there a Hatchery on lake Dardanelle? it has been there for years dont know what they are growing now but they used to always stock the lake from it.
The only thing that I dont really like is that these rules create a situation that takes the tournament rules out of the tournament director. Doc some of these rules are great like registering and collecting data. But someone telling you when and where you can have a tx in the summer time is the same chit we fought about last week somebody else deciding what we do, some fishery ppl in the agfc dont even fish.
I agree Caleb- ideal world stuff but it's a free country.
The other option would be all TD's register and we uphold standards in fish care and not restrict dates/times.
Regarding the lake at Dardanelle- absolutely it exists and is used but it is used for all sorts of fish for that big ol lake.
Would love to see a dedicated black bass pond-
Data to date(AGFC and UAPB data) shows that 10-15% of stocked fish impact the fishery.
Last weekend 160 pairs of fish made around 200,000 fingerlings in 3 months...
We do the same at Dardanelle and we can put 20,000 catchable fish in that system every year...
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