fished a tour this past sat and had a tr 21 triton with 225 pro xs blast off behind me someone i know and we were going to the same place and i ate his lunch run off and left him out of site four stroke power !!!!!
fished a tour this past sat and had a tr 21 triton with 225 pro xs blast off behind me someone i know and we were going to the same place and i ate his lunch run off and left him out of site four stroke power !!!!!
Well this is a safe place to post that comment. In the General forums they might be jumping out of windows.Of course I am just kidding. Great numbers and to those that have SHO's we are not surprised.
200, 225 or 250 SHO?
A tr21 with a 225 is not a real fast boat
<table width="90%" cellspacing=0 cellpadding=0 align=center><tr><td>Quote, originally posted by mattd551 »</td></tr><tr><td class="quote">A tr21 with a 225 is not a real fast boat</td></tr></table>
That doesn't compute because I went out with my good friend to help him setup his
19' BassCat Pantera II with a 200SHO on the GPS Graph, 77mph plus. Not to many cookie cutter Bass Boats going that fast with two stroke motors.
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That doesn't compute because I went out with my good friend to help him setup his
19' BassCat Pantera II with a 200SHO on the GPS Graph, 77mph plus. Not to many cookie cutter Bass Boats going that fast with two stroke motors.
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Not trying to stir the pot, but in 07 I had a triton tr196 with a 200 optimax that I got to 76 before I ran out of room on a small lake. That was empty though but was still a fast boat. I'm not a diehard merc or yamaha guy (currently running a 225 hpdi). I was just stating my opinion.
thats with a 225 SHO when i was getting it dialed in i bumped 80 with 2 people half tank of gas and tackle
Matt,
Your Triton/Opt is fast. No one is denying that. That's impressive if this setup was done with a stock prop, stock lower unit and original power head. It would be the very first one I've heard of going that fast and deserves a tip of the cap.
The Pantera PII I posted above is a 2011 boat that had 3/4 full tank of fuel and tackle with single driver, 6'5" 250lbs with stock OEM parts with 26p Fury prop. However the point is the SHO's has pushed past traditional 4 stroke engines that \ has not been accepted by the bass boat community because it lacked hole shot and top end. The SHO not only demonstrates that but has exceeded past it in many ways. Oh, and 4 strokes engine life for big block engines usually lasts twice as long as a two stroke as well. These attributes coins the marketing phrase from Yamaha as "GameChanger". So far well deserved to this date. No oil to mix or add and no oil to spill in our fresh water resources. Look at the back end of any two stroke and you'll see a rainbow trail behind your boat. I know, I've always owned them until my latest boat with the Vmax SHO. That's one of the reasons the EPA is four stroke friendly. Four stroke oil is self contained and does not get exhausted out of the motor like two strokes into our fresh waters.
In the end this is not about the boat. It's just the arrow. Pick any boat with SHO. Anyone that has an open mind that is willing to get behind the wheel will immediately see the difference with hole shot and top end if you can drive WOT speeds.
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That is impressive. Great numbers and not bad for a four stroke.
one other wrinkle i failed to mention this was in a river and i out preformed him a lil in the curves and walked off and left him on the straight aways so much so that after the tour he walked over and wanted to know what prop i was running etc. and BTW its a bone stock SHO
TA,
They all are... The SHO is the real deal. Of course you know that now.
<table width="90%" cellspacing=0 cellpadding=0 align=center><tr><td>Quote, originally posted by The Arch »</td></tr><tr><td class="quote">one other wrinkle i failed to mention this was in a river and i out preformed him a lil in the curves and walked off and left him on the straight aways so much so that after the tour he walked over and wanted to know what prop i was running etc. and BTW its a bone stock SHO </td></tr></table>
my last point was that it is very impressive for the SHO to out preform the pro xs in the curves all be not as much as it did on the straight aways . ive never been one to brag but im telling you after about 30 miles we couldnt even see him at the tail end of a 2 mile straight away
I always get a kick out of threads like this. You guys do realize that these boats all have throttles right? You assume the guy that got smoked was running full throttle.
2008 Z520/Yamaha 250
i didnt assume it he told me after the tour that he was scared i was going to the same place he wanted to and was trying to over take me and couldnt . and anyone that has fished tours on rivers the small ox bows r at a premium in the spring and an unwritten rule is if you beat me there you get the pick of starting bank with atleast a 150 yard buffer .
TA,
You know your comments makes to much sense to be accepted by those in denial.
First to the hole in a tournament especially in long runs like yours is the reality. Just like Ike displayed on ESPN at the Classic passing T. Biffle with his ProXS. I guess Biffle was just easing off the throttle as Ike's SHO passed right past him.
All kidding aside the real point here is not so much the SHO is faster but that the four strokes can mix it up and hold their own vs any stock two stroke. Isn't that the point? There is always someone out there that is faster not because of the HP's but rather hull design and most importantly boat setup. All things being equal to what I have seen the SHO is arguably the hottest motor right now. Might be different tomorrow. Again, boat setup is critical.
<table width="90%" cellspacing=0 cellpadding=0 align=center><tr><td>Quote, originally posted by The Arch »</td></tr><tr><td class="quote">i didnt assume it he told me after the tour that he was scared i was going to the same place he wanted to and was trying to over take me and couldnt . and anyone that has fished tours on rivers the small ox bows r at a premium in the spring and an unwritten rule is if you beat me there you get the pick of starting bank with atleast a 150 yard buffer .</td></tr></table>
Flyswatter please quit posting pics of my boat. I don't think I gave you permission to do so. You are violating copy right laws.
2025 Gator Trax 1754 175HP Yamaha SHO
1998 Triton TR-21 2012 Yamaha 225 SHO
Nobody will ever know for sure...which is the game of the rig makers...instead of having "Rallies"....maybe the next couple years they should all be races and maybe some real legit comparative data can emerge...for a change...like that will ever ever ever ever ever happen.
The game is to never ever run legit comparisons...
bottom line on the SHO...its maybe 6mph faster than a regular 4 stroke and has better holeshot with near the regular 4 stroke mpg...cost and weight are the negatives...and that is as close to "bet the farm" data as we are going to get.
2018 Z19/200 Optimax 2 stroker 24x3 Fury Ultrex 112
Lowrance HDS 12/9 Lives with AT 2
Bama96,
Can't help it. It's one very sharp boat and proud to post pics of a legitimate Bass Boat that can in optimum conditions and setup max out at 77 plus on the GPS graph powered by a VmaxSHO.
<table width="90%" cellspacing=0 cellpadding=0 align=center><tr><td>Quote, originally posted by reelman »</td></tr><tr><td class="quote">Nobody will ever know for sure...which is the game of the rig makers...instead of having "Rallies"....maybe the next couple years they should all be races and maybe some real legit comparative data can emerge...for a change...like that will ever ever ever ever ever happen.
The game is to never ever run legit comparisons...
bottom line on the SHO...its maybe 6mph faster than a regular 4 stroke and has better holeshot with near the regular 4 stroke mpg...cost and weight are the negatives...and that is as close to "bet the farm" data as we are going to get.</td></tr></table>
The SHO weight is not a negative. It is lighter than it's HPDI counterpart and the same or less than other similar HP 2 stroke. That is an old argument and is no longer valid regarding the SHO.
2025 Gator Trax 1754 175HP Yamaha SHO
1998 Triton TR-21 2012 Yamaha 225 SHO
In all seriousness Racing has very little to do with which motor is fastest. REally not the point. GPS is the truest bench mark impacted by optimum weather, boat setup and driving ability. Some will fudge but can't do anything about that. The most legitimate thing to do is record your runs with posted pics. Disclaimer: All posts including what I have posted needs to be taken with a grain of salt. The data should be used as benchmarks for those who endeavor WOT pursuits. Although, I have made plenty of 10-40 mile runs to get chased and chase other boats that can be fun. Anything past that is bravado. That is is fun along as your safe and you don't take all of this to serious. Let's focus on this one thing that can't be denied and that is SHO four stroke technology can run at the top with established two strokes and not play second fiddle to any two stroke motor.
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