david, The whites are moving we caught probably 10 in dog creek. If it was me I would forget the whites, we probably caught 70 bass yesterday down there. most of them 13 to 15 inches, it was unreal. Our biggest was about 3.5 but it was a ball. It would be a great time to take a kid down there and get them good and broke in. A #200 bandit did the trick for us. jeff