Copolymer line comparison PLine vs vicious ULTIMATE

[dchance]

I have tried the ultimate (not fluoro) and like it yet it seems pretty stiff. I have also tried PLine fluoro clear which was ok too. Have not tried cxx xtra strong. Looking for my next line to try and think I will go with a copolymer. Also thinking about mccoys. Best copolymer?

[rudapa]

Try the McCoy's.

[herndonpro]

I really like PLine Cxxx. Low memory and good casting distance. Did not care for the fluoro clear on a casting rod. Really wanted to run off the spool during a cast. Did not seem as tough as the Cxxx.

HP

[BassAm]

<table width="90%" cellspacing=0 cellpadding=0 align=center><tr><td>Quote, originally posted by herndonpro &raquo;</td></tr><tr><td class="quote">I really like PLine Cxxx. Low memory and good casting distance. Did not care for the fluoro clear on a casting rod. Really wanted to run off the spool during a cast. Did not seem as tough as the Cxxx.

HP</td></tr></table>

Ditto on CXX. I know some guys don't like it but I've never had a problem with it and have been hung up on a brush pile with a cinder block and pulled the whole thing up with 15 lb test. It is a good happy medium between mono and fluro.

[SoonerFan]

From what I understand, CXX X-tra Strong is NOT a co-polymer...it is a straight monofilament. If you look at the P-Line website, they say nothing at all about CXX being either a co-polymer or having any fluorocarbon coating.

I am a big fan of P-Line products but I found CXX to be too stiff and hard to manage. I use CX Premium or Fluoroclear on everything not braid. The way I understand it, CX Premium is a co-polymer with a blend of Nylons and a fluorocarbon coating...Fluoroclear has fluorocarbon mixed in with the Nylon as well as on the outer coating. I have never had any abrasion problems with CX or anything to make me feel the need to move to the more abrasion resistant CXX.

[castoff33]

You can't go wrong with P-Line !!!

[dchance]

Gotta add P-Lines new C21 to the mix now for the price. I have some on order that I am going to try. Fro that price, how can you not?

[SoonerFan]

<table width="90%" cellspacing=0 cellpadding=0 align=center><tr><td>Quote, originally posted by castoff33 &raquo;</td></tr><tr><td class="quote">You can't go wrong with P-Line !!!</td></tr></table>

I wouldn't go so far as to say that. I hated Evolution so bad during pre fishing that I had to strip it off the night before the tournament and spool on some my go to CX. It was a fresh spool on a baitcaster and it coiled up so bad it would jam up in the first guide. I douched it with KVD and stretched it out and nothing helped it. My partner was pissed at me for trying a new line in a tournament and I couldn't argue with him.

On two different occasions I found broken strands of Halo sticking up out of the spool with line that was less than 5 or 6 months old. I liked the line but you can't put up with line that breaks down in the spool.

I stick with CX-Premium or Flouroclear and that's about all I need.

[NewRangerMan]

if you like copolymers try some yozuri hybrid.......its is IMHO way better than everything else

[swilliams]

Probably depends on what you are looking to do with it. For me, about all I do with mono/copolymer is squarebill cranking, some topwater and spinnerbaits through heavy brush. Another thing is always be sure to compare line diameter rather than lb test rating when comparing all these lines or looking for new line. CXX by lb test is much larger diameter, but if you go diameter to diameter it is still stronger and more abrasion resistant than most other lines. My opinions:

CXX - WILL NOT fail you when money/fish is on line. Stiff, poor handling - yes (use line conditioner, helps great deal.) Loss of fish due to abrasion, knot failure, etc. - NO. Stretch is low, sensitivity is good. Good line for pitching/flipping shallow water, spinnerbaits in heavy cover/brush, but it really shines to me for squarebills due to abrasion resistance, floatation, and you can unhang the baits using Clunn's "boomerang" method for lack of better term most of the times with CXX 17lb.

PLine CX - Ok. Stretch is higher than CXX, abrasion resistance not that good. Smaller diameter than CXX by lb test.

PLine CX Premium - Fluoro coated copolymer (does nothing for abrasion resistance in my experience), stretch is higher than other two to me, just fluoroclear with lower diameter in hi-vis blue color, breaks easier than CXX or CX when compared to same diameter in my experience. Good for night fishing if you want to see your line. Handles very well on spinning equipment or baitcasting.

Pline FluoroClear - Ok line but nothing special to me. Handles well, but not as well as CX Premium. Not fluoro, no where near as sensitive as a 100% fluoro and will not take the abuse of CXX or CX. Not sure why so many folks like it. If I want a fluoro, I use 100% fluoro.

McCoys - Very slick, casts far. WAY too much stretch for me. Abrasion resistance is good, but no where near CXX. Better than vicious ultimate.

Vicious Ultimate - High stretch, good abrasion resistance, very cheap. For money not bad. Will need to respool often because it does not hold up as well as McCoy or Pline. I like it better than fluorclear or though due to higher abrasion resistance in my experience.

Just my thoughts, hope it helps.

[dchance]

great reviews thanks!

Sounds like CXX is the way to go. I have the new C21 on order so I will try that and see how it goes. supposed to be a good middle to Cx and CXX. We shall see.

[SoonerFan]

<table width="90%" cellspacing=0 cellpadding=0 align=center><tr><td>Quote, originally posted by swilliams &raquo;</td></tr><tr><td class="quote">

PLine CX - Ok. Stretch is higher than CXX, abrasion resistance not that good. Smaller diameter than CXX by lb test.

PLine CX Premium - Fluoro coated copolymer (does nothing for abrasion resistance in my experience), stretch is higher than other two to me, just fluoroclear with lower diameter in hi-vis blue color, breaks easier than CXX or CX when compared to same diameter in my experience. Good for night fishing if you want to see your line. Handles very well on spinning equipment or baitcasting.

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Not sure what you're referring to. There is no P-Line CX...only CX Premium and CXX-Xtra Strong and all the others such as Fluoroclear, Halo etc. Are you referring to PF Original?

Here is the list of the entire P-Line lineup... http://www.p-line.com/all_lines.php

[swilliams]

<table width="90%" cellspacing=0 cellpadding=0 align=center><tr><td>Quote, originally posted by SoonerFan &raquo;</td></tr><tr><td class="quote">

Not sure what you're referring to. There is no P-Line CX...only CX Premium and CXX-Xtra Strong and all the others such as Fluoroclear, Halo etc. Are you referring to PF Original?

Here is the list of the entire P-Line lineup... http://www.p-line.com/all_lines.php </td></tr></table>

Yes the "PF Original" is what I was calling CX. Not sure why I thought it was CX but could have sworn I seen that somewhere...

[SoonerFan]

I thought that's what you might be talking about. That's good information, I've wondered what kind of line that PF was. I'm so happy with CX-Premium that I'm almost to the point of going 100% CX-P. Right now I'm trying out some Seaguar 100% Fluorocarbon on two rods just to see how I like it but I'm about to jump completely off the fluorocarbon band wagon.

Now that you mention it...it does seem like they used to call that just plain old CX.

[mowigglewart]

I really like the P-Line fluro-clear. Have had no issues at all with it and it is very managable, soft and STRONG. I use it only my spinning gear though as I use fluoro on my baitcasters. I have heard great things in respects to YO-ZURI Hybrid. I think I might give it a try next season.

[bassindon69]

Saw this and had to reply.
I have used P-line (PF) for everything from when it came out years ago. Even for my Big fish fishing now (that's all I do now). I just went up in test. Now I use 25 to 30# and I have caught ALL my big fish on it. I buy it in 3000 yard bulk.
I have yet to find a line as thin and strong at a low price that can beat it. I change line a lot of times after one trip so high dollar stuff just don't cut it. I would have to catch more fish and or it last longer through big fish and any backlash if it happens.
From what I see the 25 # Yo zuri is 0.19" ? and the PF is only 0.01668" So it's hard to find anything as thin and strong as PF. Just tried AbrazX and its not for me at 0.17. It is also 100% fluro but didn't like the price (3 times the cost) or how it kinked up funky.
You can't compare CXX or any of those super thick lines to others, they have way to thick of a diameter. 20 lb CXX is thicker than 30 lb PF so how is it fair to compare CXX 20 to PF 20 ? I would put 30 lb PF to 20 lb CXX anyday though.
You have to go by diameter to be fair in ANY line test or it's just a number on a box. yes?

[Z118]

<table width="90%" cellspacing=0 cellpadding=0 align=center><tr><td>Quote, originally posted by SoonerFan &raquo;</td></tr><tr><td class="quote">From what I understand, CXX X-tra Strong is NOT a co-polymer...it is a straight monofilament.

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CXX X-tra IS a co-polymer

It's right on the package. Here's a link to see for yourself. http://www.tacklewarehouse.com....html

[SoonerFan]

<table width="90%" cellspacing=0 cellpadding=0 align=center><tr><td>Quote, originally posted by DH205DVS &raquo;</td></tr><tr><td class="quote">

CXX X-tra IS a co-polymer

It's right on the package. Here's a link to see for yourself. http://www.tacklewarehouse.com....html</td></tr></table>

I'm not so sure it is or isn't. I've gone back and forth on what I think it's made of over the years. If you go to the P-Line website...which is what I did before I made the above statement...it will not say a word about what it's made of. However, it seems to go out of it's way to let the reader know that CX-Premium and Floroclear IS in fact a co-polymer.

http://www.p-line.com/product_detail.php?id=96

Also, Bass Pro lists it as a monofiliment...

http://www.basspro.com/PLine-C...58730

I honestly don't know exactly what it's chemical make up is but I'm willing to bet it doesn't have much in the way of fluorocarbon mixed in. Probably mono with a fluorocarbon coating similar to CX-Premium.

[luigisbass]

Try Gamma co polymer! It is great all around line. It has excellent durability, very very strong line, knot strength, smoothness, I can't say enough about it. I used to use Yozuri for the last 5 years and I liked it for it's durability and strength but I didn't like the way it kinked up and got weak.

[Bass Pro Shopper]

Anyone looking for a copolymer needs to try McCoy. I prefer their "Mean Green." I think you'll be impressed.