amsoil synthetic 2 cycle oil

[R Stanford]

i was wondering if i could use amsoil blend for optimax motor? on the info. for this synthetic oil is rated for use in mercury motor with dfi. what are your thoughts on this

[tmbullet]

My bud runs it religiously in his yammie 250OX66 and has had no problems at all and it doesn't smoke at all, and it actually smells good when burning...

[redline]

Personally, I think it's a great oil......

[Reelsore]

This one should get interesting.

[John Jackson]

I lost 2 motors due to amsoil (4 stroke). They will never ever get an opportunity to kill another one for me.
They are not TCW3 certified. They don't stand up to heavy loads or high surface speeds. I could go on about other poor quality issues with them, but this one keeps repeating every few months.

Make your own choice.

[tmbullet]

I have a 2004 Mercury 3.0 liter 225 EFI and I run Mercury premium plus only in it and will continue to do so....

[EuropeanAM]

Oil.... shmoil..... and more oil post turmoil.

For questions relating to engine oil, I would recommend that you consult your engine owner's manual, or if you prefer to read online, consult the following post:

http://www.bbcboards.net/zerothread?id=310172

[redline]

SHMOIL......is that TCW3 approved......??? LOL.....<br /><br />
Modified by redline at 9:38 AM 3/9/2011


Modified by redline at 9:39 AM 3/9/2011

[fishfeardiscajun]

4-stroke? I think you're comparing apples to oranges. Amsoil makes some really good stuff and yes, it is TCW3 rated. Check out their website or google it. I used to run Amsoil 2-stroke oil in my dirt bike. Those dirt squirters rev a lot higher than any bass boat.

[John Jackson]

<table width="90%" cellspacing=0 cellpadding=0 align=center><tr><td>Quote, originally posted by fishfeardiscajun &raquo;</td></tr><tr><td class="quote">4-stroke? I think you're comparing apples to oranges. Amsoil makes some really good stuff and yes, it is TCW3 rated. Check out their website or google it. I used to run Amsoil 2-stroke oil in my dirt bike. Those dirt squirters rev a lot higher than any bass boat.</td></tr></table>
Amsoil IS NOT TCW3 certified. Please show me where they have become certified. It is not on their web site. Nor do they advertize it as such.

[jerzia]

<table width="90%" cellspacing=0 cellpadding=0 align=center><tr><td>Quote, originally posted by John Jackson &raquo;</td></tr><tr><td class="quote">I lost 2 motors due to amsoil (4 stroke). They will never ever get an opportunity to kill another one for me.
They are not TCW3 certified. They don't stand up to heavy loads or high surface speeds. I could go on about other poor quality issues with them, but this one keeps repeating every few months.

Make your own choice.</td></tr></table>
You can prove it was because of the oil?? How so? Logic would point to a failure in the delivery system. If you knew the oil was indeed the cause, why would you use it again. Again, logic says that's ridiculous.

[jus10keith]

Straight from the AMSOIL site:


hp Injector Synthetic 2-Cycle Oil (HPI)

Excellent for all outboard motors with a performance emphasis on modern direct fuel injected (DFI) technology. Also recommended for personal watercraft, jet boats, motorcycles, snowmobiles and ATVs. Injector use or 50:1 premix.
NMMA TC-W3, API TC

•Superior performance in DFI outboard motors
•Reduces piston and combustion chamber deposits
•Protects against "ring jacking" common to DFI outboards
•Low smoke, low odor product
•Contains up to 30 percent more additives for "super clean" operation
•Reduces wear for long engine life
•Protects against rust
•Multi-functional and recommended for use in many two-cycle motors
•Low aquatic toxicity
•Recommended for use as injection oil or at a 50:1 pre-mix
hp Injector is a precise synthetic formulation that exceeds the lubrication demands of modern two-cycle motors. Today’s two-cycle outboard motors operate at higher temperatures and at leaner oil and fuel ratios than older motors. This difficult operating environment requires proper lubrication technology to keep motors running long and strong. hp Injector is a premium lubricant engineered with AMSOIL synthetic base oils and MAXDOSE advanced additives. It contains up to 30 percent more additives than other TC-W3 two-cycle oils for “super clean” operation. And because AMSOIL synthetic oils are more durable, they are perfect for lean mixture operations. In addition, this AMSOIL exclusive product produces low smoke and odor and has low aquatic toxicity properties, making it ideal for boats.

hp Injector improves engine life. It helps prevent deposits that cause ring sticking and ring jacking (carbon build-up behind the ring, forcing it outward), a phenomenon that occurs in modern DFI outboard motors. hp Injector reduces wear. It has excellent lubricity properties and provides a good lubricating oil film, protecting pistons and bearings. hp Injector protects against rust, an important feature where motors are subjected to water. hp Injector provides superior performance in direct fuel injected (DFI), semi-direct fuel injected (SDI), electronic fuel injected (EFI) and carbureted outboard motors, as well as other recreational equipment.

Applications (2-Cycle Recommendations Chart)
hp Injector is recommended for use in all two-cycle outboard motors including, but not limited to, Mercury® EFI & Optimax®, Johnson® and Evinrude® FICHT® and E-TEC™, Yamaha® HPDI, Nissan® and Tohatsu® TLDI®, Suzuki®, Mariner® and Force®. Also recommended for use in all two-cycle personal watercraft and jet boats, as well as snowmobiles, motorcycles and ATVs.

Use as injection oil or as 50:1 pre-mix (2.6 oz. per U.S. gallon of gas) where NMMA TC-W3 or API TC oils are specified. Compatible with mineral and synthetic TC-W3-type two-cycle oils, however, mixing two-cycle oils should be minimized.


I however will continue to use MERCURY DFI oil

[John Jackson]

They have 2 NMMA approved oils, but zero TCW3 approved oils.
http://thebestoil.com/AMSOILSy....aspx

[Tom Rollins]

Check this http://www.nmma.org/certificat....aspx

[John Jackson]

What, no Amsoil on the list?

[Cyncwby]

Man I'm with Don on this one, how many times are guys going to ask "hey which oil should I use" Don has gone to lengths to explain exactly which oil to use for the Optimax and the Pro Xs motors.......READ!!!!

[drapa]

<table width="90%" cellspacing=0 cellpadding=0 align=center><tr><td>Quote, originally posted by John Jackson &raquo;</td></tr><tr><td class="quote">What, no Amsoil on the list? </td></tr></table>

didn't see any mercury or quicksilver on the 2011 list either

[EuropeanAM]

<table width="90%" cellspacing=0 cellpadding=0 align=center><tr><td>Quote, originally posted by drapa &raquo;</td></tr><tr><td class="quote">

didn't see any mercury or quicksilver on the 2011 list either </td></tr></table>

That would be because you didn't open the 2010 Listings (Updated 3/2011):

http://www.nmma.org/assets/cab...1.xls

[fishfeardiscajun]

I don't think you are reading the link correctly. Look at footnotes 4 & 5, excellent for DFI outboards, and looks TCW3 to me

[John Jackson]

Notes 4 & 5 are there own claims, not independent claims. And say nothing about TCW3 certificaiton. Amsoil has never been TCW3 certified.

And consider, if your motor is under warranty, and you use Amsoil, it will not be covered by the warranty. And Mercury does perform lab analysis on many warranty cases.