Premium gas prices

[ECobb91]

In most cases higher octane is not required, it’s more expensive and the higher octane causes more carbon build-up. My 26 year old push lawn mower uses 87 octane with 10% ethanol and Startron fuel additive, my 13 year old Optimax uses 87 octane with 10% ethanol and "Don's Cocktail". My 16 year old Honda snowblower uses the same gas as my lawn mower. My 11 year old Highlander uses 87 octane with 10% ethanol (no additives). No fuel related problems so far.

i never knew it caused more carbon buildup, just that it burned slower and I would see a reduction in speed with the boat.

i barely use my boat (8 times in the last 2 years since our daughter was born, it’s actually still winterized at my parents house.. won’t be picking it up until maybe tmrw night. So I just got the non ethanol stuff since it sits for a while and didn’t want to risk phase separation.

the other small engines I might need to fill a 2.5 gal can once every couple months so I didn’t mind too much. Snowblower got some use this year, seemed like it was in use once a week from Christmas to March

[davidsa]

I think Toyota screwed itself on some of the newer vehicles calling for Premium gas. The wife and I can't get over putting and extra .9 to $1 per gallon in the tank. Makes the reported fuel efficiency seem like a lie.

[davidsa]

i never knew it caused more carbon buildup, just that it burned slower and I would see a reduction in speed with the boat.

i barely use my boat (8 times in the last 2 years since our daughter was born, it’s actually still winterized at my parents house.. won’t be picking it up until maybe tmrw night. So I just got the non ethanol stuff since it sits for a while and didn’t want to risk phase separation.

the other small engines I might need to fill a 2.5 gal can once every couple months so I didn’t mind too much. Snowblower got some use this year, seemed like it was in use once a week from Christmas to March

I use non-ethanol in my boat as well related to it sitting a lot. I am thrilled that a few stations in the south now offer 87 oct no ethanol.

[n2ratfishin]

I think Toyota screwed itself on some of the newer vehicles calling for Premium gas. The wife and I can't get over putting and extra .9 to $1 per gallon in the tank. Makes the reported fuel efficiency seem like a lie.

My Land Cruiser is the first Toyota we’ve owned that has never achieved the advertised mileage.

[davidsa]

My Land Cruiser is the first Toyota we’ve owned that has never achieved the advertised mileage.

Even with Premium Fuel?

I'm with you. Every Toyota or Lexus I've owned met its rating on a modest wind day.

[Bob G.]

In 2023 I was planning my next truck. I’ve had mostly 1500 series trucks. I wanted a GMC 1500 AT4 with the 6.2L and 6.5’ bed. Was kind of rare with that bed siize but were a couple around or could order one. I saw that they required premium fuel to get the maximum HP and torque. With the price of premium fuel at the time and advertised MPG, I compared real world numbers compared to the 2500HD with the 6.6L gasser that only required 87 octane. The fuel costs were a wash. Then I built both trucks on GMC. There was only $2k to $3k difference in price. I ordered a 2024 GMC 2500HD AT4 with 6.6L gas motor. Happy with the truck as it has no start/stop and cylinder deactivation. The upscale GM 1500 trucks have an electronic console shifter that is not a normal PRNDL shifter. My truck has a normal column shifter.

Premium fuel recently is about $.90 more 87 octane.

[zelmo]

In 2023 I was planning my next truck. I’ve had mostly 1500 series trucks. I wanted a GMC 1500 AT4 with the 6.2L and 6.5’ bed. Was kind of rare with that bed siize but were a couple around or could order one. I saw that they required premium fuel to get the maximum HP and torque. With the price of premium fuel at the time and advertised MPG, I compared real world numbers compared to the 2500HD with the 6.6L gasser that only required 87 octane. The fuel costs were a wash. Then I built both trucks on GMC. There was only $2k to $3k difference in price. I ordered a 2024 GMC 2500HD AT4 with 6.6L gas motor. Happy with the truck as it has no start/stop and cylinder deactivation. The upscale GM 1500 trucks have an electronic console shifter that is not a normal PRNDL shifter. My truck has a normal column shifter.

Premium fuel recently is about $.90 more 87 octane.

I have a Denali with the 6.2. There is a difference in power between regular and premium gas but it is plenty strong on 87 octane. If the spread is 30 cents and I am towing I will put the premium in but not at a dollar spread.

I wasn’t aware that there has been an overall trend for the car manufacturers to specify premium. If that is driving demand up it would be a reason for the spread to widen as the supply chain adapts.

[n2ratfishin]

Even with Premium Fuel?

I'm with you. Every Toyota or Lexus I've owned met its rating on a modest wind day.

Premium fuel from day one.

[borderbasser]

I didn't even notice

[Highcentered]

Big difference in price in my area and has been for years. Good thing everything I have likes 87 e10 just fine.

[mean_dean]

I miss the days of 10 cent price difference between 87, 89, and 91/93. Around here it seems like between 20 and 30 cents per gallon. Such a ripoff, I read somewhere that it is actually cheaper to make the high-octane fuel. Too bad TJ wasn't around to offer his insights.

[JTN]

Fuel supplier brings out a 1,000 gallons at a time of 87 e10 no treatments and it gets used in everything from string trimmers, to vehicals never have any troubles…