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    New software release 5.250

    Xplore/SOLIX/APEX software update posted on HB website
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    Yep I just chased my tail for over an hour with tech trying to get my auto chart stuff to work. Then she finally was notified that there's an update, so we'll see how it goes.

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    Are you guys always recalibrating ML2 with each of these updates?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Phoenix Jim View Post
    Are you guys always recalibrating ML2 with each of these updates?
    I just do it with a ML2 software update.
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    #5
    Does anyone know if this update addresses the "lost GPS Fix" issue? The description does not really explain what the "general performance" that is supposed to be "significantly improved" is? If anyone does the update can they please let us know what they see as an improvement? Comments on improvements (or not) of the lost GPS fix would be much appreciated!
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    5.250 General Fixes

    AUTOCHART LIVE

    • Improved the display and presentation of AutoChart Live and LiveShare data.

    CHART

    • Improved the functionality and performance of the Nav Data (Waypoints, Routes, and Tracks) Tool.
    • Optimized the import and networking of Waypoints, Routes, and Tracks in user created Groups.
    • Ensured deleted waypoints are promptly removed from the Chart view without needing a reboot.
    • Streamlined the networking of waypoint .HWR files imported from a HELIX unit.
    • Improved waypoint and track color options.
    • Improved the import of GPX files from third-party sources.
    • Enhanced the LakeMaster SmartStrike Lake List data.
    • Refined the Chart Orientation mode indicator label.
    • Enhanced the Vessel Overlay settings, allowing seamless control of Compass, Range Rings, and SI Range.
    • Improved the activation, clearing, and memory of the chart cursor position.
    • Optimized Navionics chart zoom functionality.
    • Improved Navionics Route Guidance.
    • Improved the SI Range Overlay on Navionics charts.
    • Updated the World Geographic Model to WGM-2025 for precise magnetic and true north calculations.

    NMEA 2000 | NMEA 0183 | Source Selection

    • Improved Heading data source subscriptions between reboots.
    • Improved NMEA 0183 and NMEA 2000 performance and data display information.

    MEGA 360

    • Enhanced MEGA 360 Quick Sweep mode.

    MEGA Live

    • Improved MEGA Live in Forward Mode for better manual angle setting with AHRS turned off.
    • Optimized MEGA Live 2 data orientation for multiple units in shallow water.
    • Added radial (circular) gridlines to MEGA Live Landscape Mode.
    • Improved MEGA Live 2 ping ranges and image clarity during reboots, mode changes, or view changes.
    • Improved Digital Depth accuracy from a MEGA Live 2 transducer.
    • Improved 2D, DI, and SI pinging speed when MEGA Live 2 is out of the water.
    • Improved MEGA Live Target Lock software updates when connected to a MEGA Live 2 transducer.

    MINN KOTA TROLLING MOTOR

    • Enhanced steering in i-Pilot Link 3.0 trolling motors (model year 2023 and older).
    • Improved motor controls for Quest and Advanced GPS trolling motors (model year 2024 and newer) when partially deployed.

    POWER MENU

    • Added Standby Mode to the power menu.
    • Improved sonar pinging control when SOLIX G3 or APEX is shut down in Standby Mode.

    SONAR 2D | DI | SI

    • Improved Display Frequency and Display Spectrum Top Bar menus.
    • Enabled multiple sonar panes to display different optional Display Frequencies simultaneously.
      • Now, 83 kHz (Medium CHIRP) and 200 kHz (High CHIRP) or 50 kHz (Low CHIRP) and 200 kHz (High CHIRP) can be displayed in multi-pane views at the same time.

    • Enhanced transducer detection during rebooting, restoring defaults, or reconnecting Humminbird transducers.
    • Improved specific transducer configurations on APEX when using both Humminbird and Airmar transducers at the same time.
    • Improved sonar data and waypoint location display when scrolling back through sonar history.
    • Prevented unnecessary clearing of sonar history.
    • Enhanced sonar sensitivity when subscribed to remote sonar source over the Ethernet network.
    • Improved manual mode sliders for Low, Medium, and High CHIRP frequencies when 2D CHIRP is turned off.
    • Enabled Side Imaging Left, Right, or Both menu settings to be different on multiple panes in a single view, unit, or network.
    • Enhanced functionality and performance of the Sonar Recording and Playback tool.
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    No joy for me with auto chart. I did not have any instance of GPS no fix but that could be related to my LakeMaster legacy card. Today I was running a new VX card.


    Note on vx it won't work in slot 1 known issue apparently.
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    What do you actually think this means?
    • Improved MEGA Live Target Lock software updates when connected to a MEGA Live 2 transducer.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Phoenix Jim View Post
    What do you actually think this means?
    • Improved MEGA Live Target Lock software updates when connected to a MEGA Live 2 transducer.
    when I first installed my new Xplore and Megalive2 and TargetLock this past March I needed to update the TargetLock software to use it with the Mega Live 2. There was a known to HB issue that the Xplore would not do the update on the TargetLock with the Mega Live 2 combination. They suggested that I needed to have a Mega Live connected or send it in to HB to do the update for me. I didn't have access to a Mege Live. Believe it or not, I was able to use the Helix G4N connected to the TargetLock with the Mega Live 2 in order to do the update. I assume it has something to do with that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Derail View Post
    when I first installed my new Xplore and Megalive2 and TargetLock this past March I needed to update the TargetLock software to use it with the Mega Live 2. There was a known to HB issue that the Xplore would not do the update on the TargetLock with the Mega Live 2 combination. They suggested that I needed to have a Mega Live connected or send it in to HB to do the update for me. I didn't have access to a Mega Live. Believe it or not, I was able to use the Helix G4N connected to the TargetLock with the Mega Live 2 in order to do the update. I assume it has something to do with that.
    interesting, my xplore and targetlock worked fine no issues other than pairing the heading sensor again. Thanks
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    Quote Originally Posted by Phoenix Jim View Post
    What do you actually think this means?
    • Improved MEGA Live Target Lock software updates when connected to a MEGA Live 2 transducer.
    Strange, as there hasn't been a TargetLock update since Released October 5, 2023
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    Quote Originally Posted by Derail View Post
    5.250 General Fixes

    AUTOCHART LIVE

    • Improved the display and presentation of AutoChart Live and LiveShare data.

    CHART

    • Improved the functionality and performance of the Nav Data (Waypoints, Routes, and Tracks) Tool.
    • Optimized the import and networking of Waypoints, Routes, and Tracks in user created Groups.
    • Ensured deleted waypoints are promptly removed from the Chart view without needing a reboot.
    • Streamlined the networking of waypoint .HWR files imported from a HELIX unit.
    • Improved waypoint and track color options.
    • Improved the import of GPX files from third-party sources.
    • Enhanced the LakeMaster SmartStrike Lake List data.
    • Refined the Chart Orientation mode indicator label.
    • Enhanced the Vessel Overlay settings, allowing seamless control of Compass, Range Rings, and SI Range.
    • Improved the activation, clearing, and memory of the chart cursor position.
    • Optimized Navionics chart zoom functionality.
    • Improved Navionics Route Guidance.
    • Improved the SI Range Overlay on Navionics charts.
    • Updated the World Geographic Model to WGM-2025 for precise magnetic and true north calculations.

    NMEA 2000 | NMEA 0183 | Source Selection

    • Improved Heading data source subscriptions between reboots.
    • Improved NMEA 0183 and NMEA 2000 performance and data display information.

    MEGA 360

    • Enhanced MEGA 360 Quick Sweep mode.

    MEGA Live

    • Improved MEGA Live in Forward Mode for better manual angle setting with AHRS turned off.
    • Optimized MEGA Live 2 data orientation for multiple units in shallow water.
    • Added radial (circular) gridlines to MEGA Live Landscape Mode.
    • Improved MEGA Live 2 ping ranges and image clarity during reboots, mode changes, or view changes.
    • Improved Digital Depth accuracy from a MEGA Live 2 transducer.
    • Improved 2D, DI, and SI pinging speed when MEGA Live 2 is out of the water.
    • Improved MEGA Live Target Lock software updates when connected to a MEGA Live 2 transducer.

    MINN KOTA TROLLING MOTOR

    • Enhanced steering in i-Pilot Link 3.0 trolling motors (model year 2023 and older).
    • Improved motor controls for Quest and Advanced GPS trolling motors (model year 2024 and newer) when partially deployed.

    POWER MENU

    • Added Standby Mode to the power menu.
    • Improved sonar pinging control when SOLIX G3 or APEX is shut down in Standby Mode.

    SONAR 2D | DI | SI

    • Improved Display Frequency and Display Spectrum Top Bar menus.
    • Enabled multiple sonar panes to display different optional Display Frequencies simultaneously.
      • Now, 83 kHz (Medium CHIRP) and 200 kHz (High CHIRP) or 50 kHz (Low CHIRP) and 200 kHz (High CHIRP) can be displayed in multi-pane views at the same time.

    • Enhanced transducer detection during rebooting, restoring defaults, or reconnecting Humminbird transducers.
    • Improved specific transducer configurations on APEX when using both Humminbird and Airmar transducers at the same time.
    • Improved sonar data and waypoint location display when scrolling back through sonar history.
    • Prevented unnecessary clearing of sonar history.
    • Enhanced sonar sensitivity when subscribed to remote sonar source over the Ethernet network.
    • Improved manual mode sliders for Low, Medium, and High CHIRP frequencies when 2D CHIRP is turned off.
    • Enabled Side Imaging Left, Right, or Both menu settings to be different on multiple panes in a single view, unit, or network.
    • Enhanced functionality and performance of the Sonar Recording and Playback tool.

    Thats a lot of good stuff in there, I am fairly new to my Apex units and noticed today when rear was slept I didnt have sonar ping up front, I def lose gps signal quite a bit.

    I wish they had a way to save your settings when doing a update. I fully intended to not do any more updates.

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    Quote Originally Posted by woppercatcher View Post
    Strange, as there hasn't been a TargetLock update since Released October 5, 2023
    yeah that is what confused me
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    Quote Originally Posted by Phoenix Jim View Post
    yeah that is what confused me
    Maybe its the fix needed for the issue that was described in post #9
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    Quote Originally Posted by woppercatcher View Post
    Strange, as there hasn't been a TargetLock update since Released October 5, 2023
    The TargetLock I purchased directly from Humminbird was not on ver 1.18 when I received it.
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    Just updated all my stuff


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    It will be interesting to see if this fixed the intermittent GPS signal and the other issues identified for multiple people with recent updates.

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    When is hbird going to have an update for helix units to resolve the issue with the ultrex leaving waypoints when hitting spot lock? I was told months ago by support they were working on it

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    Installed 5.25. It uploaded pretty fast in my Apex and two Solix G3s. It fixed the waypoint sharing issue and other waypoint glitches I was experiencing. I think it also fixed the GPS signal issue, time will tell on that. So far so good.