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    #81
    BASS would be 90% commercials, 9% recaps and 1% actual fishing if it wasn't for the complainers. As of now there may be 15% actual fishing shown. And that's being generous. I say keep complaining.

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    #82
    Quote Originally Posted by Fuzzy12 View Post
    Private business can fire somebody for anything they want that doesn’t break the common discrimination rules. I would say talking about another employee would be a reason. In this instance, he just got fined. Found this out when I was young and dumb…lawyer told me they can fire you for having blue eyes and brown hair. Wouldn’t see how a fine would be any different, especially when their “rules” are readily available for public consumption and require acknowledgement.

    Anglers are not employees of BASS.

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    #83
    Quote Originally Posted by n2theblue View Post
    Anglers are not employees of BASS.
    I would do a deep dive into this, more than one angler has said that new agreement they signed has essentially made them an employee of BASS. Don't know all the details though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OleCdub View Post
    I would do a deep dive into this, more than one angler has said that new agreement they signed has essentially made them an employee of BASS. Don't know all the details though.

    I'll guarantee you BASS does not consider them employees, and would argue that position in court. Now whether the anglers have a better argument, we'd have to see the contracts to say.

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    #85
    I would disagree. They sign contracts like most employees and are paid by BASS. Do you consider them “self employed”? BASS has a lot more control then.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fuzzy12 View Post
    I would disagree. They sign contracts like most employees and are paid by BASS. Do you consider them “self employed”? BASS has a lot more control then.
    The IRS wouldn't consider them employees. Self employed 100%

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    #87
    I doubt that they will ever be classified as employees, but if they were B.A.S.S. would become a traveling circus, dog and pony show.
    GETFISHED !!!

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    [QUOTE=getfished;13939125]I doubt that they will ever be classified as employees, but if they were B.A.S.S. would become a traveling circus, dog and pony show.[/QUOTE]

    They are trying awfully hard to do that.
    There's lots of decaffeinated brands that are just as tasty as the real thing.

    Hi Mike.

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    Quote Originally Posted by n2theblue View Post
    I'll guarantee you BASS does not consider them employees, and would argue that position in court. Now whether the anglers have a better argument, we'd have to see the contracts to say.
    No problem, although I would go easy on any guarantees, with the new contract they signed before this season it is VERY different than any they have signed before. BASS has a say, and some control, over their content, podcast appearances, and other things. Definitely different territory.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fuzzy12 View Post
    I would disagree. They sign contracts like most employees and are paid by BASS. Do you consider them “self employed”? BASS has a lot more control then.
    Yes, they are self-employed. BASS as an organization does not want them to be employees. It opens up a whole can of worms for them from insurance to taxes. Someone who signs a contract is not necessarily an employee. That's the whole point of independent contracting. I can guarantee BASS gives them 1099s for winnings, not W-2s.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OleCdub View Post
    No problem, although I would go easy on any guarantees, with the new contract they signed before this season it is VERY different than any they have signed before. BASS has a say, and some control, over their content, podcast appearances, and other things. Definitely different territory.
    Like I said, the anglers might have a good argument that they are employees, but BASS would argue against that with everything at their disposal.

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    #92
    Quote Originally Posted by n2theblue View Post
    Anglers are not employees of BASS.
    True, they’re self employed contractors, basically.

    But BASS can fire them just like they can fire any employee.

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    #93
    Quote Originally Posted by c rig View Post
    True, they’re self employed contractors, basically.

    But BASS can fire them just like they can fire any employee.
    wish they would fire mercer

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    #94
    Quote Originally Posted by Dunno View Post
    So did Brock say something while live on TV? If so should be easy to find online.
    Probably Pasquatank Day 1 - that's the only recent time I recall Brock having a camera in the boat. Would be nice to find out what the fuss is all about.

    The more I think about it, I can't imagine any angler making a specific derogatory comment against Davy or any of the crew on Live, so I wonder if it was something more generic. There was a comment made about anglers making long runs and not making it back, and Ronnie stepped in and had to say something like he doesn't hope they don't make it back or something to that effect... Not sure why that would be an issue, but who knows.


    Davy always seemed like a good guy in the past (afaik), kind of in that Zona space. But with Zona leaving, and Tommy probably retiring soon as well, I wonder if he's getting into a "Davy vs Ronnie" fight to be the future alpha of BASS... Whatever it is, it's not a good look for Davy recently, along with Herron's comments as well regarding the "sign the new deal in 4 days or you're out" referring to the original no entry fee fiasco.
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    #95
    Maybe this was it... Brock making a comment about a local loading a boat at a ramp... Seems light-hearted to me, even got a few chuckles from the Live crew.

    Starts around the 1:44 mark...

    https://therokuchannel.roku.com/watc...0dd962ec013bf7

    Did Brock have a camera at SJR? For some reason I think he might have...

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    #96
    Quote Originally Posted by rb View Post
    And many that left for the greater good has come back are trying to come back or tried to come back and saw they couldn’t make and went back or quit
    They're trying to get back in B.A.S.S. because BPT is going down to a "TRUE" Elite tour of 50.
    Proverbs 28:1

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    Quote Originally Posted by 78Staff View Post
    Maybe this was it... Brock making a comment about a local loading a boat at a ramp... Seems light-hearted to me, even got a few chuckles from the Live crew.

    Starts around the 1:44 mark...

    https://therokuchannel.roku.com/watc...0dd962ec013bf7

    Did Brock have a camera at SJR? For some reason I think he might have...
    "this should be entertaining, how many peoples it take to load the boat"?? is there something i missed.. no way that cost him

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    Quote Originally Posted by basshammerwannabe View Post
    "this should be entertaining, how many peoples it take to load the boat"?? is there something i missed.. no way that cost him
    Oh I agree, especially since the several of the Live guys laughed also...

    Must be something else, really. No way this was it. But I didn't see anything else in a quick scroll through the day for Brock. Unless it was something said in pre or post interview, or maybe in the 4 box - I didn't look at those. Like everything, it will probably come out eventually.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 78Staff View Post
    Oh I agree, especially since the several of the Live guys laughed also...

    Must be something else, really. No way this was it. But I didn't see anything else in a quick scroll through the day for Brock. Unless it was something said in pre or post interview, or maybe in the 4 box - I didn't look at those. Like everything, it will probably come out eventually.
    You tend to really feed off this type of shit, you got a YouTube channel?

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    Quote Originally Posted by 78Staff View Post
    Oh I agree, especially since the several of the Live guys laughed also...

    Must be something else, really. No way this was it. But I didn't see anything else in a quick scroll through the day for Brock. Unless it was something said in pre or post interview, or maybe in the 4 box - I didn't look at those. Like everything, it will probably come out eventually.
    I'm pretty sure it was behind the scenes, not on Live

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