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    Quote Originally Posted by Houndsman View Post
    The very idea that you can’t slow down and stop and fish without getting run over is ridiculous!!

    Scary, isn’t it? It’s basic navigation rules. Pay attention and watch where you’re going. Have control of your vessel at all times.

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    This video is a great example of why myself and tons of other are not only hoping, but helping the MLF is held liable for the most recent accident.

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    It doesn't matter where a boater stops on the lake. You should never be following so close you can't stop or turn out of the way of a slowing, stopped or disabled boat. Same as the rules of the road. This is no different than tailgating on the road.

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    More than one wrong in that video. First the driver acts like he’s upset over the first boat that passed him on the left which I see no issue. He shut it down to whine about that without ever paying attention to what’s coming. And the guy that missed him by inches was following too close and not paying attention. Not sure of what % I want to blame each driver, but both deserve some blame.

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    Quote Originally Posted by barbarian View Post
    More than one wrong in that video. First the driver acts like he’s upset over the first boat that passed him on the left which I see no issue. He shut it down to whine about that without ever paying attention to what’s coming. And the guy that missed him by inches was following too close and not paying attention. Not sure of what % I want to blame each driver, but both deserve some blame.
    You must of watched an entirely different video than the one posted by the op in the very first post. The ONLY one to blame is the asshat driving the boat that almost ran them over. Seems many here watched an entirely different video as if you watch the one posted here, they were shutting down for an off shore spot that ALREADY had SEVERAL boats fishing the area.
    Anyone blaming the boat that was coming to a stop to fish needs to sell their boat asap and NEVER get behind the wheel of another boat, hell, maybe even a car. It is 100% the fault of the boat behind them and 100% the boat behind them to not follow so close and the avoid any boat in front of them. Still cannot believe some of the replies on here, please do not come to N Idaho to boat with that mindset.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ECobb91 View Post
    Both at fault.

    Boat driver in front shares some responsibility. He should’ve looked back to see if he would be impeding anyone following.

    boat that almost hit them is even more at fault for not moving over sooner, who knows what he was occupied with, sure wasn’t looking where he was going.

    there was about 10 seconds from when the lead boat started slowing down to when the boat passed. 60mph is about 88ft/s. Meaning the boat tailing would be about 880ft behind the boat that stopped… and almost another 150ft more at 70mph, nearly 1/6 mile behind the lead boat. Human reaction time is about 1.5 seconds (assuming same as driving reaction time). That means the tailing boat had approx. 8.5 seconds and about 700ft (more than two football fields) to change course… Plenty of time to move over and slow down.
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    You are correct in all your calculation, however, both pilots are not at fault, according to USCG stay-on vessel has the right of way though he must maintain course and speed whenever possible. However, the stay-on vessel should still be cautious and be prepared to appropriate action to avoid a collision.
    The overtaking vessel is always the give-way vessel, and the give-way vessel is responsible for taking early and substantial action to keep clear of the stand-on vessel, which it may involve slowing down, stopping, or changing course to avoid a collision. Hence the idiot, the give-way vessel is the only one at fault.
    I am sure you have see this situation many of time on Oneida, Cayuga, Seneca, or any of the larger finger lake, or especially up at The River during summer times with the idiot during the weekend.

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    If your ego is too inflated to operate a boat safely you don't need to be driving a boat. Well, maybe a jon boat with single digit for hp but that's about it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lightningmusky View Post
    It doesn't matter where a boater stops on the lake. You should never be following so close you can't stop or turn out of the way of a slowing, stopped or disabled boat. Same as the rules of the road. This is no different than tailgating on the road.
    Exactly!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Idaho Sandman View Post
    You must of watched an entirely different video than the one posted by the op in the very first post. The ONLY one to blame is the asshat driving the boat that almost ran them over. Seems many here watched an entirely different video as if you watch the one posted here, they were shutting down for an off shore spot that ALREADY had SEVERAL boats fishing the area.
    Anyone blaming the boat that was coming to a stop to fish needs to sell their boat asap and NEVER get behind the wheel of another boat, hell, maybe even a car. It is 100% the fault of the boat behind them and 100% the boat behind them to not follow so close and the avoid any boat in front of them. Still cannot believe some of the replies on here, please do not come to N Idaho to boat with that mindset.
    Yuppppp!!!! Sad d bags justify that last boats actions and blame the boat shutting down 🤣

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    Quote Originally Posted by jbassman87 View Post
    Two idiots in that video if you ask me.
    There's a lot more than just two...
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    Quote Originally Posted by blzngmarine View Post
    Yuppppp!!!! Sad d bags justify that last boats actions and blame the boat shutting down ��
    Most are saying that the boat shutting down bears a little responsibility in this situation. While the boat from behind should have been watching a whole lot better, not once did the driver of the stopping boat look behind him to see if there was anyone catching up to them. I have ALWAYS made it a point when shutting down, to look and make sure I am not in anyone's path when doing so.
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    If I think there is a possibility there is a bass boat behind me, I'll stick one or both arms straight up or wave in the direction I am going to "peel off" and slow or stop. I don't wanna die chopped up on the water.

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    It all makes sense now.........

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    They should line them up on the bank and fire a gun . Let them run to their boats and blast off . Like they did in the early days of BASS . Imagine what that would look like . There is just not enough experience and learning curve for guys this age bracket . They dont have the common sense to develop the respect and empathy that is needed for this kind of horsepower . Very dangerous situations . Think about the ones you dont hear about . Slow these boats down . No more than 50 mph . The accidents will almost all go away . A very well known pro told me . I dont care if they run over each other , I just dont want them running over me .

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    It’s called situational awareness. Which many have a hard time comprehending these days of what appears to be .Right or wrong doesn’t really matter if you windup dead. You can go camping and place your tent on an animal trail or next to a bait pile because you can but you’re not going to like what follows. Just like following to close to someone or stopping in traffic which appears to be the situation here.

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    #77
    this is what these "kids" grow up in tournament fishing.. bigger tournaments then the majority of us have ever fished far as the field goes... from high school through college these tournaments have crazy amounts of boats in them.. would think they learned some things in high school watching the boater in those situations since they cant drive the boat in high school and you think they would learn quick at the college level but they are young and invincible so who knows

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    The person that rear ends you is always at fault. They need to be in control of their boat. Obviously, they were following too close and nearly hit these guys. These guys were not at fault for this incident. I did a 25-mile run from Detroit to Pelee Island and when I sat my boat down the exact same thing happened. They missed my boat by less than 3 feet at WOT.
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    #79
    For those saying the stopped boat is at fault, what was he supposed to do? Continue running down the lake for miles until there isn't a boat directly behind him? Drive past the spot so the following boat can stop on it and claim it?

    Poor logic. Following boat is 100% at fault here.

    For the guys who are talking about "honor starts", I'm assuming that means you can be on your spot whenever and start fishing at a certain time? We call them trailering tournaments. They have their problems too. The way some are run around here, you can't leave any boat ramp until a particular time, usually about an hour before fishing time. Well, that leads to a 20-50 boat shotgun start in the dark from 3 or 4 separate ramps. Last one I was in was a complete shit show.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stratofast View Post
    It’s called situational awareness. Which many have a hard time comprehending these days of what appears to be .Right or wrong doesn’t really matter if you windup dead. You can go camping and place your tent on an animal trail or next to a bait pile because you can but you’re not going to like what follows. Just like following to close to someone or stopping in traffic which appears to be the situation here.
    The following boat who almost hit those guys had his “ situational awareness “ firmly planted in his graphs as there was more than enough time to avoid that boat.
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