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    First rule of 21st century crime, is leave the cell phone at home.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BigFishSteve View Post
    Do you realize how many people come and go at a college apartment? It could be him, but it could just be that he had handled someone else's knife/sheath. And I drive by all kinds of places. Sometimes at 3am. Sometimes at 11pm. That, by itself doesn't mean too much.
    Your kidding me right? His DNA on the sheath of the murder weapon. And his car in the vicinity of the crime at the time of death? Surely you are kidding.....

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    Not kidding. Do we know how many other DNA examples from others were on the sheath? No? Would they tell us? Do they have the knife?
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    There is more evidence than just the DNA and him being in the area. Even the defense lawyers know he did it. The delays are just them trying to milk the last dollar and try to get the prosecution to wear down to except a lesser charge plea agreement settlement.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BigFishSteve View Post
    Not kidding. Do we know how many other DNA examples from others were on the sheath? No? Would they tell us? Do they have the knife?
    If I remember correctly, the knife was never found. Why else would his DNA be on the sheath though? Other DNA in the residence, sure. Several cute party girls lived there. Yep, gonna be DNA around. The knife sheath is a huge piece of evidence not to mention his DNA on it. It's a slam dunk case, like other have said it's a money milking trial at this point.....

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    Okay, I'll type this slowly. If a skin cell on the sheath makes it a slam dunk, and they find other unique skin cells on the sheath, who do you slam dunk? Anybody could have held that sheath recently. If someone you knew held out a brand new knife and said "check out my new knife" and you did, than that makes you the killer. That is what you are saying when you base the case off that.
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    There is so much evidence, it's a slam dunk. The Defense is stalling trying to get some of it tossed. The sheath everyone talks about was found under one of the bodies. His blood DNA was found on 2 of the victims. He bought the knife that came in the sheath on Amazon.
    He had contact with one of the victims and apparently stalked her on social media. His car was seen passing by 3 times close to the house, starting at 3:29am. Then at 4:04am, he stopped near the house, then sped away at 4:20am. His cell phone was turned off 2:47am to 4:48 am. His cell phone was on a path towards and away from the residence when it was turned off, and then on again.

    When they put him under surveillance, he was observed (video) cleaning every inch of his car wearing surgical gloves. He put everything he cleaned up in trash bags and put them in his neighbors trash cans.

    This is just some of the evidence that was made public after his lawyers tried to get it tossed. There is assumed more evidence that will come out at trial including his dna under of one of the victims fingernails.
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    That's way more than DNA on a sheath.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeff Hahn View Post
    I believe that’s called circumstantial evidence.
    Jeff I don’t think the DNA is circumstantial.

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    It was a K Bar knife, just fyi.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dtronic View Post
    There is so much evidence, it's a slam dunk. The Defense is stalling trying to get some of it tossed. The sheath everyone talks about was found under one of the bodies. His blood DNA was found on 2 of the victims. He bought the knife that came in the sheath on Amazon.
    He had contact with one of the victims and apparently stalked her on social media. His car was seen passing by 3 times close to the house, starting at 3:29am. Then at 4:04am, he stopped near the house, then sped away at 4:20am. His cell phone was turned off 2:47am to 4:48 am. His cell phone was on a path towards and away from the residence when it was turned off, and then on again.

    When they put him under surveillance, he was observed (video) cleaning every inch of his car wearing surgical gloves. He put everything he cleaned up in trash bags and put them in his neighbors trash cans.

    This is just some of the evidence that was made public after his lawyers tried to get it tossed. There is assumed more evidence that will come out at trial including his dna under of one of the victims fingernails.
    I knew there was more than just a small sample of DNA. And if there is like some say DNA from others how come they haven’t been arrested along with this guy. More than likely they have alibis that have been checked by the police. The guy is guilty.

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    Quote Originally Posted by yatesville88fan View Post
    Jeff I don’t think the DNA is circumstantial.
    Not sure if that’s what a lawyer would call it. But, simply having one’s dna on an item found at a murder scene is far from proof that one committed the murder. Thus, I was saying that it was just circumstantial.

    If what Dtronic said is accurate, then the dna on the knife sheath becomes far more than circumstantial.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dtronic View Post
    There is so much evidence, it's a slam dunk. The Defense is stalling trying to get some of it tossed. The sheath everyone talks about was found under one of the bodies. His blood DNA was found on 2 of the victims. He bought the knife that came in the sheath on Amazon.
    He had contact with one of the victims and apparently stalked her on social media. His car was seen passing by 3 times close to the house, starting at 3:29am. Then at 4:04am, he stopped near the house, then sped away at 4:20am. His cell phone was turned off 2:47am to 4:48 am. His cell phone was on a path towards and away from the residence when it was turned off, and then on again.

    When they put him under surveillance, he was observed (video) cleaning every inch of his car wearing surgical gloves. He put everything he cleaned up in trash bags and put them in his neighbors trash cans.

    This is just some of the evidence that was made public after his lawyers tried to get it tossed. There is assumed more evidence that will come out at trial including his dna under of one of the victims fingernails.
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