Stock market sages

[BP in ME]

Some of you guys......

[Rider99XX]

I've watched guys call and check their 401K's 20+ times a day

[davidsa]

Tariffs definitely hurt but Trump contradicting him self every 3 minutes while he rambles causes uncertainty in the market. Uncertain = people stop spending = economy slows down

This!

A market correction was due this year related to the massive returns and price run up of the prior 2 years. anyone not aware that historical annual return on equities is around 10% but has major changes from year to year should look the returns of the S&P500 over the last 35 years

The trigger of tariffs is the thing that makes this different. we don't really have anything like it in the 35 year history that I mentioned

[ttranger]

I spoke to my advisor yesterday. He said the market was due for a pullback, but there is so much uncertainty on a daily basis now that major investors are waiting for some semblance of stability before making any major moves. The market thrives on stability and predictability - it flounders on the kind of chaos we have now.

[spinningreel]

If the tariffs are so great put em in place and leave them. Either they work like we’re told they will or someone doesn’t know what they’re doing? Either way let’s find out! Stand firm on them and let the chips fall.

[tcesni]

If your 401k lost money in the last few years you need a new investment firm.

No kidding!

[skeeterator]

In the last 4 years, inflation has been less than 4% most of the time with an early spike right after C-19 prior to the Fed Res correction. You must be too young to recall the years of Carter where inflation was double digits, yet, we got through it because of sensible people in DC and Jimmy somehow had three Fed chairs in a one-term presidency, as well as the two treasury secretaries because of his micro managing prior to Paul Volcker, the slayer of stagflation, was the accidental Fed chair. Carter came to appoint him because Carter became unglued about the energy crisis. Great 1970s inflation with his tight money, was Carter’s madcap handling of his own administration in the summer of 1979 itself a preface to what is going on at WH currently. It was not until 1982 that inflation slowed down to around 3% crawl we have roughly lived with since, with the 2% deflation created after the crash of 2008 sub-prime rate fiasco.

Lmao!!!

[ProVle]

Those darn bad tariffs! Grab a beer or two and read this list. https://intellizence.com/insights/bu...ss-expansions/

[dramabeats]

Lmao!!!

Facts don't care about your feelings

[janky]

[250bassFL]

I haven't been in the stock market a few years now, and investing in fishing and gun stuff now days anyway. But if the bottom drops out and it stays down a little while, I might go find a firm that can invest in some stocks for me.

[Tfall]

I retired over a year ago and I’m doing just fine with no worries. I guess my financial team at Fidelity must be the best after reading some of the doom and gloom folks here. Maybe many of you are getting your info from agenda driven news sources. I’m happy we are finally going to charge our so called friends and allies the same they are charging us. We have been getting used and abused for way too long. And as far as prices on goods going up…it’s not any where near what many are screaming. Do some research.

[Tfall]

I haven't been in the stock market a few years now, and investing in fishing and gun stuff now days anyway. But if the bottom drops out and it stays down a little while, I might go find a firm that can invest in some stocks for me.

Smart man!

[n2ratfishin]

In the last 4 years, inflation has been less than 4% most of the time with an early spike right after C-19 prior to the Fed Res correction. You must be too young to recall the years of Carter where inflation was double digits, yet, we got through it because of sensible people in DC and Jimmy somehow had three Fed chairs in a one-term presidency, as well as the two treasury secretaries because of his micro managing prior to Paul Volcker, the slayer of stagflation, was the accidental Fed chair. Carter came to appoint him because Carter became unglued about the energy crisis. Great 1970s inflation with his tight money, was Carter’s madcap handling of his own administration in the summer of 1979 itself a preface to what is going on at WH currently. It was not until 1982 that inflation slowed down to around 3% crawl we have roughly lived with since, with the 2% deflation created after the crash of 2008 sub-prime rate fiasco.

I remember those rates well, as a matter of fact I got a then GREAT rate on my first mortgage at 10%. What I did NOT see back then was my home price jump 65% in a few years like it has the past few years. Nor did I worry so much about property taxes and other government fees. Today we have so many different "CPI"s to watch so politicians can cook the books to whatever looks more favourable.

Were things like autos, homes, fuel, healthcare, insurance costs, or groceries included in the recent claim of only 3% inflation?

The economy only appears to be doing great as sooooo many are in debt to their eyeballs and or borrowing against their homes as the price hikes gave them unusually high HELOC amounts.

[dramabeats]

I retired over a year ago and I’m doing just fine with no worries. I guess my financial team at Fidelity must be the best after reading some of the doom and gloom folks here. Maybe many of you are getting your info from agenda driven news sources. I’m happy we are finally going to charge our so called friends and allies the same they are charging us. We have been getting used and abused for way too long. And as far as prices on goods going up…it’s not any where near what many are screaming. Do some research.

We're not getting used and abused. Just because you import more from a country than you export, it doesn't mean it's a bad thing

Trump is just obsessed with Tariffs and he doesn't have anyone who's worth a shit anymore to tell him otherwise

[jcdogfish]

Facts don't care about your feelings

Facts are what we have the last few years is compound inflation. If inflation went to 100% for one month and the next 12 months it went to 0 you could say inflation was 0 most of the time. I track my spending and know what my prices did in the last few years and it ain't just 4% higher. They use that fuzzy math and exclude some things. Heck, just my employees health insurance went up 25% this year

[n2ratfishin]

We're not getting used and abused. Just because you import more from a country than you export, it doesn't mean it's a bad thing

Trump is just obsessed with Tariffs and he doesn't have anyone who's worth a shit anymore to tell him otherwise

What makes is bad is we are not exporting as much in part due to high tariffs on our goods with trading partners.

[senkoboy]

Just looked, DOW up 310 points today.

[janky]

I remember those rates well, as a matter of fact I got a then GREAT rate on my first mortgage at 10%. What I did NOT see back then was my home price jump 65% in a few years like it has the past few years. Nor did I worry so much about property taxes and other government fees. Today we have so many different "CPI"s to watch so politicians can cook the books to whatever looks more favourable.

Were things like autos, homes, fuel, healthcare, insurance costs, or groceries included in the recent claim of only 3% inflation?

The economy only appears to be doing great as sooooo many are in debt to their eyeballs and or borrowing against their homes as the price hikes gave them unusually high HELOC amounts.

Check out car repo rates.

[dramabeats]

What makes is bad is we are not exporting as much in part due to high tariffs on our goods with trading partners.

There's nuance to everything. A lot of these high tariffs from other countries only kick in after a threshold is met. Those thresholds usually don't get met.