Ionic Battery - faults, high voltage spikes, $3K costs so far

[jstbass]

i been running a 125 Ionic in my 520L since 2019 and have had no problems. Never any problems. Running 3 Lowrance graphs and all the other stuff. Might be boat wiring from Ranger

[SteezMacQueen]

i been running a 125 Ionic in my 520L since 2019 and have had no problems. Never any problems. Running 3 Lowrance graphs and all the other stuff. Might be boat wiring from Ranger

I bet you aren’t using a Power Pole Charge for a charger either.

I have 5 Ionic batteries in my Z520/ProXS250. Not a single issue either, but I am running a MinnKota charger.

[wmitch2]

Well, I know just enough about electronics to probably get myself in trouble, (I do possess a 1st Class FCC License tho) but in all the electronics classes I've taken I've never seen where a Battery can cause an Electrical "Spike". A battery is only a "Storage" not a "Creator". An electrical spike can only be caused by a Charger of some sort, be it a battery charger or generator/alternator. I'd look to the alternator first and then the PowerPole charger.

[ThomasD]

Well, I know just enough about electronics to probably get myself in trouble, (I do possess a 1st Class FCC License tho) but in all the electronics classes I've taken I've never seen where a Battery can cause an Electrical "Spike". A battery is only a "Storage" not a "Creator". An electrical spike can only be caused by a Charger of some sort, be it a battery charger or generator/alternator. I'd look to the alternator first and then the PowerPole charger.

A faulty BMS in a lithium can cause the alternator to spike

[bigboyztoyz]

Likely an issue with the settings on the powerpole charge. Not saying it isn't possible for the Ionic (or any other brand for that matter) to be the culprit but unlikely. Powerpole charge is great but as you can see on several other posts it needs to be hooked up properly, settings correct and even then it needs to be monitored.

[wmitch2]

A faulty BMS in a lithium can cause the alternator to spike

Yes, the ALTERNATOR, not the BATTERY

[TopgunZ521C]

no issues with the 5 125ah ionics ive been running for 3 yrs id say BPS is your issue

[Capw]

I just sent back a 4 year old 125 for repair. It is possible for them to go bad.

[erickennedy1]

My 125ah has been great for the last 3 years. I did have a small issue with one of my 50ah and Ionic’s customer service took care of it and was pleasant to work with.

[z520brewer]

What is the process to send an ionic battery back? Can you share their customer service number? Thanks

[Shotgunwilly]

Been running Ionic for 3-4 years and never an issue (tap the wood). My only issues I’ve ever had all went back to the dang PP Charge charger. It drove me nuts for a few months. Sometimes I’d get full re charge and sometimes not. Ultimately, yanked that thing and replaced it with a $450 Minn Kota and no more problems. I also had a Powerhouse lithium for my electronics that developed a bad cell after a couple of years but they were great to deal with and replaced the battery in 2 days. Also, support guys at Ionic have always been great to work with when I had questions. Hate the original poster had such a bad and expensive experience due to one bad item but unfortunately that’s how manufacturing goes. There’s just going to be a bad apple here and there even in the best of conditions.

[Capw]

What is the process to send an ionic battery back? Can you share their customer service number? Thanks

Contact the dealer you bought it from. They will start the process.

[trigger16]

You guys are so defensive on the Ionics, LOL. Must be some connection..Hmm..I wonder what that is? hahaha.. Anyway, I reviewed through all four pages of PP discussion link provided and there was nothing definitive and posts went back and forth on battery, PP, and boat wiring. To me it's another case of voltage spikes and significant electrical damage. The evidence of both cases points to the Ionic Lithium battery and the issues are resolved with an AGM placed back in. No further voltage spikes. If this was a PP issue, wouldn't the voltage spikes continue? I used my PP for 3 years now as I bought one when they first came out. I've had zero issues with AGM's and Lead Acid batteries.

So another 3 touch panels fried and now the fuel gauge doesn't work. I have to trouble shoot that now. Still crickets from Ionic, no phone, text or email communication from Lithium Hub. Great service! LOL.. As with my counterpart, a $700 battery sitting in the garage. I sell it for $699.. hahaha

Well, guys you can keep making your snide comments if that makes you feel better but the facts are... two cases of spiking voltage which caused significant ($) damage to electrical hardware on bass boat. Troubleshooting with techs (Me - Mercury Marine) and the other guy as well (Motor and PP) point to battery and did not reveal any other cause. AGM battery back in and no issues. As a student of stats right now, that's all I'm going to say. Take the facts as you will. Good luck.

[SteezMacQueen]

You guys are so defensive on the Ionics, LOL. Must be some connection..Hmm..I wonder what that is? hahaha.. Anyway, I reviewed through all four pages of PP discussion link provided and there was nothing definitive and posts went back and forth on battery, PP, and boat wiring. To me it's another case of voltage spikes and significant electrical damage. The evidence of both cases points to the Ionic Lithium battery and the issues are resolved with an AGM placed back in. No further voltage spikes. If this was a PP issue, wouldn't the voltage spikes continue? I used my PP for 3 years now as I bought one when they first came out. I've had zero issues with AGM's and Lead Acid batteries.

So another 3 touch panels fried and now the fuel gauge doesn't work. I have to trouble shoot that now. Still crickets from Ionic, no phone, text or email communication from Lithium Hub. Great service! LOL.. As with my counterpart, a $700 battery sitting in the garage. I sell it for $699.. hahaha

Well, guys you can keep making your snide comments if that makes you feel better but the facts are... two cases of spiking voltage which caused significant ($) damage to electrical hardware on bass boat. Troubleshooting with techs (Me - Mercury Marine) and the other guy as well (Motor and PP) point to battery and did not reveal any other cause. AGM battery back in and no issues. As a student of stats right now, that's all I'm going to say. Take the facts as you will. Good luck.

Glad you got it all figured out.

[bloodman]

You guys are so defensive on the Ionics, LOL. Must be some connection..Hmm..I wonder what that is? hahaha.. Anyway, I reviewed through all four pages of PP discussion link provided and there was nothing definitive and posts went back and forth on battery, PP, and boat wiring. To me it's another case of voltage spikes and significant electrical damage. The evidence of both cases points to the Ionic Lithium battery and the issues are resolved with an AGM placed back in. No further voltage spikes. If this was a PP issue, wouldn't the voltage spikes continue? I used my PP for 3 years now as I bought one when they first came out. I've had zero issues with AGM's and Lead Acid batteries.

So another 3 touch panels fried and now the fuel gauge doesn't work. I have to trouble shoot that now. Still crickets from Ionic, no phone, text or email communication from Lithium Hub. Great service! LOL.. As with my counterpart, a $700 battery sitting in the garage. I sell it for $699.. hahaha

Well, guys you can keep making your snide comments if that makes you feel better but the facts are... two cases of spiking voltage which caused significant ($) damage to electrical hardware on bass boat. Troubleshooting with techs (Me - Mercury Marine) and the other guy as well (Motor and PP) point to battery and did not reveal any other cause. AGM battery back in and no issues. As a student of stats right now, that's all I'm going to say. Take the facts as you will. Good luck.

Voltage spikes are absolutely linked to lithium BMS issues. I've seen it several times and luckily no damage because of tripped breaker. I now have voltage alarms set to alert me and suggest everyone do this. It has definitely made me rethink my setups. Thanks for your posts.