Matt Herren DQ’ed

[borderbasser]

[Tigercat]

Still not funny and definitely not a good look

Not a good look, surprised frankly. A plate of crow to boot…

[Josh Herren]

He got dq’d because we were talking on Tuesday about how he was spending all his time practicing down south. That’s where he spent his practice and all the tournament. I wasn’t thinking and made a comment hopefully this one doesn’t get one north in deep creek like a tournament that my buddy had fished the previous weekend just as a general comment talking fish. He never went there to look and went right back and put in at Astor the next day. I have fished opens and understand off limits periods but we talk fishing daily and I just wasn’t thinking when I said it. Polygraph examiner asked if he had received any information and told them I had said it on accident but never went in that direction(70 miles the exact opposite is where he went in practice and the tournament). That flagged it as soliciting for information and dq’d him. The rule states soliciting while trying to gain a competitive advantage so I don’t understand how mistakenly being told something and not pursuing the information or using it for any gains can fall into a disqualification.

[Booster]

He got dq’d because we were talking on Tuesday about how he was spending all his time practicing down south. ... That flagged it as soliciting for information and dq’d him. The rule states soliciting while trying to gain a competitive advantage so I don’t understand how mistakenly being told something and not pursuing the information or using it for any gains can fall into a disqualification.

This why BASS needs to get rid of this so called "NO Info Rule". It is a stupid out of date rule. This was set in the days of guys hiring guides to learn the lakes they were to fish. It no longer belongs with the modern technology of satelitte imagery and on-line mapping/navigation maps.

[Jeff Hahn]

This why BASS needs to get rid of this so called "NO Info Rule". It is a stupid out of date rule. This was set in the days of guys hiring guides to learn the lakes they were to fish. It no longer belongs with the modern technology of satelitte imagery and on-line mapping/navigation maps.

I disagree. Without the No Info rule, the tournament boils down to who has the best information network, rather than being a fishing contest. Without it, hiring guides, paying for waypoints, and having buddies pre-fish during off limits would be the norm. The No Info rule isn't perfect and it's enforcement may not be as uniform as we'd like, but the situation is far better with it than without it.

[pavi69]

This why BASS needs to get rid of this so called "NO Info Rule". It is a stupid out of date rule. This was set in the days of guys hiring guides to learn the lakes they were to fish. It no longer belongs with the modern technology of satelitte imagery and on-line mapping/navigation maps.

When the Classic was on Conroe, I saw many who were qualified for the Classic out running around the lake with the local sticks. Without the no info rule it came down to who had the best network.

[mossie3]

Soliciting means requesting. I highly doubt Matt Herren was soliciting, or even wanted to hear that. If that's all that happened that's BS. Rules, enforcement of the rules, and assessing penalties have gotten out of hand.

[pantherdad]

Soliciting means requesting. I highly doubt Matt Herren was soliciting, or even wanted to hear that. If that's all that happened that's BS. Rules, enforcement of the rules, and assessing penalties have gotten out of hand.

I agree with this statement

[Okie Poke]

Soliciting means requesting. I highly doubt Matt Herren was soliciting, or even wanted to hear that. If that's all that happened that's BS. Rules, enforcement of the rules, and assessing penalties have gotten out of hand.

^^^^^ hunnert percent ^^^^^

[bbqpitboss]

It's almost impossible for these guys to not get info!

[WarEagle24]

Soliciting means requesting. I highly doubt Matt Herren was soliciting, or even wanted to hear that. If that's all that happened that's BS. Rules, enforcement of the rules, and assessing penalties have gotten out of hand.

Fact!!

[kry29]

Soliciting means requesting. I highly doubt Matt Herren was soliciting, or even wanted to hear that. If that's all that happened that's BS. Rules, enforcement of the rules, and assessing penalties have gotten out of hand.

I agree, and if what was posted above is true how does Matt get a dq and the opens guy gets a simple fine? Thats bs

[crab bass]

He got dq’d because we were talking on Tuesday about how he was spending all his time practicing down south. That’s where he spent his practice and all the tournament. I wasn’t thinking and made a comment hopefully this one doesn’t get one north in deep creek like a tournament that my buddy had fished the previous weekend just as a general comment talking fish. He never went there to look and went right back and put in at Astor the next day. I have fished opens and understand off limits periods but we talk fishing daily and I just wasn’t thinking when I said it. Polygraph examiner asked if he had received any information and told them I had said it on accident but never went in that direction(70 miles the exact opposite is where he went in practice and the tournament). That flagged it as soliciting for information and dq’d him. The rule states soliciting while trying to gain a competitive advantage so I don’t understand how mistakenly being told something and not pursuing the information or using it for any gains can fall into a disqualification.

If this is the reason then Matt got screwed and I would fight it, especially after they let the opens guy keep his money and spot. None of their rulings seem to follow the same guidelines and that would drive me crazy if I was fishing for them.

[rangerjignpig]

what did the open guy do? WHo was it?

[cubswin]

How do you enforce a email, txt, phone call, dinner, hotel, etc conversation. You are relying upon guilty conscience or someone being pissed off to enforce.

Yes some guys are going to do what rule says, but some aren’t.

[dean c]

He got dq’d because we were talking on Tuesday about how he was spending all his time practicing down south. That’s where he spent his practice and all the tournament. I wasn’t thinking and made a comment hopefully this one doesn’t get one north in deep creek like a tournament that my buddy had fished the previous weekend just as a general comment talking fish. He never went there to look and went right back and put in at Astor the next day. I have fished opens and understand off limits periods but we talk fishing daily and I just wasn’t thinking when I said it. Polygraph examiner asked if he had received any information and told them I had said it on accident but never went in that direction(70 miles the exact opposite is where he went in practice and the tournament). That flagged it as soliciting for information and dq’d him. The rule states soliciting while trying to gain a competitive advantage so I don’t understand how mistakenly being told something and not pursuing the information or using it for any gains can fall into a disqualification.

Im starting to think that Slick guy is right. BASS clown management doesn’t know wtf they are doing. DQ a guy for this?? Laughable.

[janky]

He got dq’d because we were talking on Tuesday about how he was spending all his time practicing down south. That’s where he spent his practice and all the tournament. I wasn’t thinking and made a comment hopefully this one doesn’t get one north in deep creek like a tournament that my buddy had fished the previous weekend just as a general comment talking fish. He never went there to look and went right back and put in at Astor the next day. I have fished opens and understand off limits periods but we talk fishing daily and I just wasn’t thinking when I said it. Polygraph examiner asked if he had received any information and told them I had said it on accident but never went in that direction(70 miles the exact opposite is where he went in practice and the tournament). That flagged it as soliciting for information and dq’d him. The rule states soliciting while trying to gain a competitive advantage so I don’t understand how mistakenly being told something and not pursuing the information or using it for any gains can fall into a disqualification.

If this is indeed how it went down then it is BS. No different than if some yahoo tells you something at the gas pump.

[BassnPhoenix920]

How can anyone form an honest opinion without all the facts? I hate speculation all it does is stir the pot.

[Basskicker907]

Yall would be singing a different tune if it was a rookie or last years rookie that this happened to.

[shooter66]

Its how it works and they all know the rules.....I have a few friends on the Elite side and I always have to be very careful when we talk. They all know it and if I even seem like I'm crossing the line they stop me immediately. Does it suck ABSLOUTLY...and do I agree Matt got screwed from a outsider perspective yes...but it is a rule.