Jordan Lee calling out Gagliardi for moving in on his water

[BrianKF]

I don't think one single person has stated anything close to that at all. You just don't run up to the leaders spot and start fishing the water they are fishing especially while they are fishing it. Its not terribly hard to understand. Its respect and courtesy.

It's not stated that way but It's the way I read some of them. But yeah I agree one shouldn't move in on another's spot (not nessessarely speaking area) and should stay away a certain distance.

[fishnfireman]

I don't think one single person has stated anything close to that at all. You just don't run up to the leaders spot and start fishing the water they are fishing especially while they are fishing it. Its not terribly hard to understand. Its respect and courtesy.

Getting to be less of this............

[Mark Perry]

It's not stated that way but It's the way I read some of them. But yeah I agree one shouldn't move in on another's spot (not nessessarely speaking area) and should stay away a certain distance.

I don't think Lee or Coulter had any issue with other people throwing a frog. I think tgey had issue with people coming in on them that hadn't fished that area all week.

[paulrodbender]

I don't think Lee or Coulter had any issue with other people throwing a frog. I think tgey had issue with people coming in on them that hadn't fished that area all week.

I think Coulter told Salzman or someone, "You weren't even throwing a frog yesterday" ....... Or something like that. Maybe that's what the above was referring to.

[strugglebus]

How would Coulter know what he was throwing if he wasn't fishing there?

[paulrodbender]

How would Coulter know what he was throwing if he wasn't fishing there?

Don't know maybe they spoke at the end of the day........ no idea really. Just what I heard during live.

[188Musky]

I don't think Lee or Coulter had any issue with other people throwing a frog. I think tgey had issue with people coming in on them that hadn't fished that area all week.

Isn't successful fishing about checking a progression of possibilities?

I get what you are saying about fishing a bent pole pattern, but anyone in this tournament should be a pretty confident fisherman and is past that tactic by a long way.

It seems to me that a fisherman working his way through a progression of possibilities would lead to fishing water that someone else was fishing a lot more often than intentionally crowding a fisherman that was having success.

In this age of "anything goes in a tournament, so long as it's not forbidden in the written rules", I don't see anything wrong with what anyone has done here.

[high 2]

Salt water guys call it “pot licking” as in “here comes a pot licker”.

I’ve always liked that description.

I’ve never heard that before. I’ll start using that from now on.

[fishnfireman]

Isn't successful fishing about checking a progression of possibilities?

I get what you are saying about fishing a bent pole pattern, but anyone in this tournament should be a pretty confident fisherman and is past that tactic by a long way.

It seems to me that a fisherman working his way through a progression of possibilities would lead to fishing water that someone else was fishing a lot more often than intentionally crowding a fisherman that was having success.

In this age of "anything goes in a tournament, so long as it's not forbidden in the written rules", I don't see anything wrong with what anyone has done here.

Imagine that.

[Mark Perry]

Isn't successful fishing about checking a progression of possibilities?

I get what you are saying about fishing a bent pole pattern, but anyone in this tournament should be a pretty confident fisherman and is past that tactic by a long way.

It seems to me that a fisherman working his way through a progression of possibilities would lead to fishing water that someone else was fishing a lot more often than intentionally crowding a fisherman that was having success.

In this age of "anything goes in a tournament, so long as it's not forbidden in the written rules", I don't see anything wrong with what anyone has done here.

You'll catch a limit with that post for sure.

[Highcentered]

Last weekend a friend of mine sent a jig into the side of a guys Tracker after he came in within 20' of him and started fishing. When the antagonist says "fvck you it's public water" them's fighting words. People who crowd others on the water to the point where their boat can be hit with a good long cast need to be knocked in the head.

[strugglebus]

Don't know maybe they spoke at the end of the day........ no idea really. Just what I heard during live.

I wasnt questioning you, I was more questioning Coulter. lol I heard him say that too. Feel bad for Coulter, he was smashing them te other days. Was interesting that he started flipping but Lee kept frogging all day and hit that short window where he caught pretty much all his weight in like 30 min.

[78Staff]

got a time stamp on this?

4:42

https://majorleaguefishing.com/videos/2171622/

[188Musky]

You'll catch a limit with that post for sure.

Not really trying to catch anyone, just provoke some thought.

If anyone is going to automatically reject what I’ve presented because it doesn’t follow tournament fisherman conventions, so be it.

[JR19]

4:42

https://majorleaguefishing.com/videos/2171622/

He talks about integrity at 4:42 with Gagliardi in the background but the interaction where he actually calls out Dylan Hayes in person is at the 5:00 mark

[2dwoods]

All I know is don't fish Murray if your going to get your panties in a bunch because someone else is fishing your hole with the same bait ,hell you can't hardly move 100 yards and someone has your spot they call it rotation move you loose

[Quillback]

So what is the definition of "in the area". What is the distance that should be between boats fishing the same tourney?

[Highcentered]

All I know is don't fish Murray if your going to get your panties in a bunch because someone else is fishing your hole with the same bait ,hell you can't hardly move 100 yards and someone has your spot they call it rotation move you loose

Spot rotation is fine because it's first come first serve. It's when someone's already there and you come in on top of them that causes the problem. You sound like the type that gets chewed out by people like me and then acts childish when people call you out for your inconsiderate BS.

[Hoot]

Originally Posted by 188Musky
Isn't successful fishing about checking a progression of possibilities?

I get what you are saying about fishing a bent pole pattern, but anyone in this tournament should be a pretty confident fisherman and is past that tactic by a long way.

It seems to me that a fisherman working his way through a progression of possibilities would lead to fishing water that someone else was fishing a lot more often than intentionally crowding a fisherman that was having success.

In this age of "anything goes in a tournament, so long as it's not forbidden in the written rules", I don't see anything wrong with what anyone has done here.

You'll catch a limit with that post for sure.

Yep he is well on his way and will be culling soon.

[78Staff]

He talks about integrity at 4:42 with Gagliardi in the background but the interaction where he actually calls out Dylan Hayes in person is at the 5:00 mark

Thanks, I hadn't seen that part of it...

A few thoughts...

That's a really big area to be claiming all to yourself and just trolling around playing defense and not fishing. Kinda like Micheal Neal did to Adraian Avena recently, although that was a much smaller area. I mean, look at Okeechobee earlier this year. You could practically walk from boat to boat.

Now, I will preface this by saying I am a Jordan Lee fan. I was really happy he came back to BASS. BUT... I would supspet some of the current MLF anglers don't really care about JL seeing as he bailed on them and is back in this one tourney, I can see some of them saying F$ck what JL thinks I will do what I want.

(Edited due to context)