Originally Posted by Slicefixer
We will have to disagree. I believe it is a privilege to be a PGA tour member. If the tour does not want you going play in a competitor's event then so be it. Let them go to LIV and play their 54 hole shotgun start events. I much prefer to watch the Eric Cole's of the world come out and do what he did. Just my opinion.
Hehehe....i get it Razor. Personally, I care about 4 events a year.
And I totally agree....observed Cole up close for a few hours in Dallas this year as he was in our group. He can go....
I also 100% agree with your point about the LIV format. I've said this from day dot of LIV.....they will have to go primarily to 72 hole events. They must do this so as to allow the players to gain WRP's so as to qualify for the 4 major championships, etc.
What I'm truly hoping is they can all come together and reach some form of compromise for the reasons I've listed previously in this thread.
I am not sure what this looks like. If the LIV guys are allowed to play tour events with no repercussions then the tour guys are gonna revolt. I also have trouble believing anything that comes out of Monahan and Dunne's mouth. If the PIF is sinking $2B they are going to want control. It is a huge mess and want to go back to a simpler time of Faldo being #1 in the world.
Hehehe.....again, I TOTALLY agree.....
Apparently our only point of disagreement is in regards to a players level of freedom if they've honored their mandatory level of commitment to the PGA tour via the "15 tournament minimum (not sure the number today). I think that once a player has honored this commitment then IMOP they should be free to compete wherever they like.
Now, if they do not honor their commitment they should lose the privilege (I too consider it an EARNED privilege) of being a PGA Tour member and all the benefits provided to them by the PGA Tour.....just as Ballesteros did in '85/'86....forget the exact year.
I have a feeling the Saudis will get out these huge paychecks and "contracts". They dont have the same system we do and can care less about a contract or what our law says about them
Good posts above. Good information and talks. I can see it from both sides, but as a golf fan….LIV sucks to watch in my opinion.
Good for him. When young talent leaves the pga you know not all is right with it. I think the biggest attraction to leave for these guys is the time they get away from the game and to have time with family. I know playing professional golf does not always appear to be a "hard life" but, the days off are spent traveling.
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Good for him I guess. I watch a lot of golf and can honestly say I've never tuned in because Jon Rahm was in it so it won't affect my viewing in the slightest. The only LIV guy who I would tune in to watch on a regular PGA Tour event was Brooks Koepka - that guy is a beast.
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I look at it like this. Let's say Billy Beane in moneyball hired Peter Brand as an independent contractor instead of an employee. Peter comes in and shows Billy his strategy of hiring ball players. Billy pays Peter as a consultant. Then Peter asks Billy if he would mind if he went to the Red Sox and showed them the strategy too. Billy can't stop Peter from going to the Red Sox, but he can sever ties with Peter and not allow him to work with the A's again if Peter goes against Billy will.
My analogy might suck, but it the best I can do for a Friday morning after a Christmas party. I might actually go hit some balls in a little bit, and see if I can't squeeze a couple of hundred out of LIV.
Bubba Watson 2 time Masters winner was one of the first to go. He Only got 50 Million. But it set his family up for life. Plus he has won another 6 Million. Dustin Johnson and some guy named Taylor Gooch have won 48 Million since signing up. Can you blame them for taking the money.
Funny after they all left the PGA started a fund to pay the players more.
Bubba Watson and his family were more than setup before he left. Hell, his caddy was pretty much setup too. The same can be said for DJ. Talor Gooch was not and it was a good move for him. However, the things he said after making the move were shitty. No, I can't blame them for taking the money. However, just take the money and go. Don't turn around and file a lawsuit against the tour for them not allowing you to play both tours.
The tour will never be able to compete with LIV on a monetary basis it id foolish for them to even try.
I have to agree...if he didn't have financial stability before? And i dont think he was past his prime. This really puzzles me,maybe they threatened to butcher an American citizen. ..oh wait
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They will be re-writing the Ryder Cup Rules to keep him playing.
Boyd needs to be calling LIV.
What?.. He's only 29 years old and can be argued as being the best in the game in last couple of years. Not even a doubt he is in top 5 and has been ranked #1 in the world several times in last couple of years. He won the masters this year. US open 2 years ago.
All in the past, and a very good one at that. So you believe he will get better in his 30's? The generation behind him hits it further and straighter. Not saying he can't still win and be a top player, but Jon cashed in on his his past, not his future.
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And you would turn down $600 million....if so then none of us here can help you. Taking the easy pay day.....lmao
No it won't, the money and players are there to keep it goingAlmost anyone would go for that kind of money. I have yet to watch a LIV golf event. You hate to see talent diluted like that. Both sides will suffer because of it. Just like in tournament bass fishing!
Where did I say that?
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I made a list of all the things I wouldn't do for 600 Mill!
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