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    #21
    if your hull is rated for 200 an you flash it for over the recommended horsepower an fish tournaments that have hp limited to boat manufacturers ratings you are cheating .

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    Quote Originally Posted by ssmithboats View Post
    if your hull is rated for 200 an you flash it for over the recommended horsepower an fish tournaments that have hp limited to boat manufacturers ratings you are cheating .
    Not true.

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    if it is in the tournaments rules how is it not true you must only follow the rules you like.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ssmithboats View Post
    if it is in the tournaments rules how is it not true you must only follow the rules you like.
    Some people go by the saying "it's only illegal if you get caught". They'll also be the ones that will say they're right and you're wrong even when you prove them wrong.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bassfisher444 View Post
    Not true.
    One pro has a vid about how he blew his up and when it was rebuilt they used nonstock reeds. He later got DQ’d for having a modified engine
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    Quote Originally Posted by ssmithboats View Post
    if it is in the tournaments rules how is it not true you must only follow the rules you like.
    Serial number makes it a 200hp, no matter what you do to it it is legally still a 200hp.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 1BADAIR View Post
    One pro has a vid about how he blew his up and when it was rebuilt they used nonstock reeds. He later got DQ’d for having a modified engine
    That's ignorant.

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    about as ignorant as saying that a 200 sho that has been flashed to 250 is the same as a 200

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    Quote Originally Posted by ssmithboats View Post
    about as ignorant as saying that a 200 sho that has been flashed to 250 is the same as a 200
    Legally it is, as far as actual output goes most 200HP motors make more than 200HP from the factory so if you are limited to 200 actual HP that would disqualify most people with a 200HP on 200HP rated boat.

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    Any thoughts on a prop for this new set-up? Does everyone un a Fury 23 P on the PRO XS V-8 motor? I ran it today with a new borrowed Tempest 24 P. Still less than 10 hours but it wants to go. 3 conventional batteries, no poles, fixed Pro Hijacker plate.

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    OP-Please post your final set-up and results once you get it dialed in. My TR196’s Opti had 702 hrs but is still running like new ….. but you never know when a repower might be necessary.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bassfisher444 View Post
    That's ignorant.
    9. HORSEPOWER REGULATIONS: Maximum horsepower for all outboard motorboats used in official tournament practice and in tournament competition will be 250 horsepower. Horsepower cannot exceed the limitations set by the U.S. Coast Guard. When required, each boat must have a U.S. Coast Guard horsepower-rating plate attached to the boat by the manufacturer. The horsepower of the outboard engine must NOT exceed the rating specified on this plate nor the horsepower maximum set by B.A.S.S. Each competitor agrees to submit, by their signature on the official entry form, the boat and outboard motor used in the tournament, to an inspection by factory-trained personnel, if there is reason to suspect the horsepower is in excess of the rating. Normal maintenance of engines is allowed. Changing or altering standard factory parts of a competitor’s engine to increase the horsepower over the factory horsepower rating, is forbidden and will result in disqualification. Falsifying information on entry forms, or altering the horsepower-rating numbers on the engine, is also cause for immediate disqualification from B.A.S.S. tournaments. Posted speed limits and those imposed by B.A.S.S. must be observed and all boats must be operated in a safe manner. Violations of speed limits shall result in loss of competition hours and not limited to disqualification.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lightning 6 View Post
    OP-Please post your final set-up and results once you get it dialed in. My TR196’s Opti had 702 hrs but is still running like new ….. but you never know when a repower might be necessary.
    Will do. Keep a eye on your air compressor at 700 hrs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 1BADAIR View Post
    9. HORSEPOWER REGULATIONS: Maximum horsepower for all outboard motorboats used in official tournament practice and in tournament competition will be 250 horsepower. Horsepower cannot exceed the limitations set by the U.S. Coast Guard. When required, each boat must have a U.S. Coast Guard horsepower-rating plate attached to the boat by the manufacturer. The horsepower of the outboard engine must NOT exceed the rating specified on this plate nor the horsepower maximum set by B.A.S.S. Each competitor agrees to submit, by their signature on the official entry form, the boat and outboard motor used in the tournament, to an inspection by factory-trained personnel, if there is reason to suspect the horsepower is in excess of the rating. Normal maintenance of engines is allowed. Changing or altering standard factory parts of a competitor’s engine to increase the horsepower over the factory horsepower rating, is forbidden and will result in disqualification. Falsifying information on entry forms, or altering the horsepower-rating numbers on the engine, is also cause for immediate disqualification from B.A.S.S. tournaments. Posted speed limits and those imposed by B.A.S.S. must be observed and all boats must be operated in a safe manner. Violations of speed limits shall result in loss of competition hours and not limited to disqualification.
    I don't thing the OP is fishing in BASS tournaments. Also carbon fiber reeds don't increase HP, Pro XS Optimax motors come factory with them.

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    OP-Will do.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jljr View Post
    Any thoughts on a prop for this new set-up? Does everyone un a Fury 23 P on the PRO XS V-8 motor? I ran it today with a new borrowed Tempest 24 P. Still less than 10 hours but it wants to go. 3 conventional batteries, no poles, fixed Pro Hijacker plate.
    Sorry your thread got jacked off course into a goofy discussion on flashing motors.

    Maybe I can help get back to subject - Curious on your prop, setback and height. I've just repowered a Tr-20 with 200 Pro XS V-8.

    I have replaced the old pro hijacker jack plate - it was downrated to 175 hp in later production (3/8" plate), and installed an 8" Z Lock (1/2" plate, 300 Hp rating).

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    Sorry your thread got jacked off course into a goofy discussion on flashing motors.

    Maybe I can help get back to subject - Curious on your prop, setback and height. I've just repowered a Tr-20 with 200 Pro XS V-8.

    I have replaced the old pro hijacker jack plate - it was downrated to 175 hp in later production (3/8" plate), and installed an 8" Z Lock (1/2" plate, 300 Hp rating).
    So I've got about 15 hours on it now. Lots of fun to drive. Seems like a new hull. Still running the old pro-hijacker fixed plate. Prop to pad is about 2-3/4". I plugged all the holes solid in the new Tempest 24P that I bought. Jumps out of the hole and 60mph seems like a happy place. Ran it up to 67 mph and it walked alot so I backed of to 60. Plenty of water pressure, 15-17 ish. We are talking about some 2 degree wedges. Good luck.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jljr View Post
    So I've got about 15 hours on it now. Lots of fun to drive. Seems like a new hull. Still running the old pro-hijacker fixed plate. Prop to pad is about 2-3/4". I plugged all the holes solid in the new Tempest 24P that I bought. Jumps out of the hole and 60mph seems like a happy place. Ran it up to 67 mph and it walked alot so I backed of to 60. Plenty of water pressure, 15-17 ish. We are talking about some 2 degree wedges. Good luck.

    4 hours yesterday on initial break in. Agreed it feels like an entirely new boat.

    8" setback, ptp at 2", 23 trophy plus (lowest pitch I've got on hand at the moment). WP 15+

    Seems to respond to trim much differently than the 2 stroke. No trim needed on holeshot until planed off (I can see why you plugged all the vents) and had to run flatter when opened up to keep chine under control.

    Easily to 65+ in short WOT runs, and quickly noticed its super sensitive when you let off. We were fully loaded on fuel and livewells. I'll be trying different props and motor heights after I clear the 10 hrs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnM64 View Post
    4 hours yesterday on initial break in. Agreed it feels like an entirely new boat.

    8" setback, ptp at 2", 23 trophy plus (lowest pitch I've got on hand at the moment). WP 15+

    Seems to respond to trim much differently than the 2 stroke. No trim needed on holeshot until planed off (I can see why you plugged all the vents) and had to run flatter when opened up to keep chine under control.

    Easily to 65+ in short WOT runs, and quickly noticed its super sensitive when you let off. We were fully loaded on fuel and livewells. I'll be trying different props and motor heights after I clear the 10 hrs.
    Is that GPS speed? If so 65MPH is excellent for a 200 on a boat that big, I wouldn't change anything.

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    You made a good choice sticking with the Mercury vs the Yamaha. Those Yamaha's are junk. Seen many family members and friends with those who have experienced tons of issues, some catastrophic. Mercury quality is far superior to the Yamaha's from what I have seen.
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