Add another blowed up L2 to the list

[clm6741]

My L2 broke yesterday morning first thing. It was last day in a 2 day tournament. Evinrude is sending me a new M2 plus a 26 Rakr II. I love evinrudes and thei warranty department are outstanding. Im just sad that the L2 gearcases do not hold up. This motor was brand new in Septemer and I did NOT hit anything with it. I am hoping the M2 will not hurt my performance much. I will do some playing with the setup and who knows, it may be better.

[clm6741]

bump...... So I guess no one wants to talk about this with me huh???

[DoferGofer]

What is there to say? Tell us more when you get the new M2.

[ChampioNman]

<table width="90%" cellspacing=0 cellpadding=0 align=center><tr><td>Quote, originally posted by clm6741 &raquo;</td></tr><tr><td class="quote">bump...... So I guess no one wants to talk about this with me huh??? </td></tr></table>

What do you want to hear? You have posted this on two sites that I know of. BRP is taking care of you. New case and new prop to match the ratio. Now some questions from the gallery;

Prop to pad distance? What prop you turning when it went? Surfacing the case? Water pressure when the case blew. Engine report to post? Granted the L2 wasn't the best case but Bass fisherman wanted a different ratio to run with the Merc cases and voila, the L2. There are thousands out there running strong. Sorry you had an issue with yours.

[clm6741]

<table width="90%" cellspacing=0 cellpadding=0 align=center><tr><td>Quote, originally posted by ChampioNman &raquo;</td></tr><tr><td class="quote">

What do you want to hear? You have posted this on two sites that I know of. BRP is taking care of you. New case and new prop to match the ratio. Now some questions from the gallery;

Prop to pad distance? What prop you turning when it went? Surfacing the case? Water pressure when the case blew. Engine report to post? Granted the L2 wasn't the best case but Bass fisherman wanted a different ratio to run with the Merc cases and voila, the L2. There are thousands out there running strong. Sorry you had an issue with yours. </td></tr></table>

Are you trying to say it is my fault that my case blew??? I was runnin a 24 raker with over 20 psi of water pressure with plenty of lower unit in the water. Its a phoenix not an Allison. I can jack my plate all the way up and have 20 psi, my motor is mounted in second hole from top.

Yeah I surfaced the case when I load it on the boat.... jeesh man

My only concern is losing the 3-5 mph top end that people talk about with the M2 gearcases. This is a very significant loss considering I had a boat that would run 78-79 consistently by myself with full fuel.

Sorry for mentioning this on a useless board, I was hoping to hear some firsthand performance loss numbers or something other than smartazz remarks. Is there something wrong with me posting this on 2 sites???

[DoferGofer]

<table width="90%" cellspacing=0 cellpadding=0 align=center><tr><td>Quote, originally posted by clm6741 &raquo;</td></tr><tr><td class="quote">

Are you trying to say it is my fault that my case blew??? I was runnin a 24 raker with over 20 psi of water pressure with plenty of lower unit in the water. Its a phoenix not an Allison. I can jack my plate all the way up and have 20 psi, my motor is mounted in second hole from top.

Yeah I surfaced the case when I load it on the boat.... jeesh man

My only concern is losing the 3-5 mph top end that people talk about with the M2 gearcases. This is a very significant loss considering I had a boat that would run 78-79 consistently by myself with full fuel.

Sorry for mentioning this on a useless board, I was hoping to hear some firsthand performance loss numbers or something other than smartazz remarks. Is there something wrong with me posting this on 2 sites??? </td></tr></table>

Sigh

[SEAHORSE]

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Sorry for mentioning this on a useless board,

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Didn't you have the same type of attitude on the other board ?

[JoePA]

<table width="90%" cellspacing=0 cellpadding=0 align=center><tr><td>Quote, originally posted by clm6741 &raquo;</td></tr><tr><td class="quote">

Sorry for mentioning this on a useless board, I was hoping to hear some firsthand performance loss numbers or something other than smartazz remarks. Is there something wrong with me posting this on 2 sites??? </td></tr></table>

Now that is uncalled for. This board is far from usleless. These engine gurus come on here and help us out on their own time! There are a handfull of them and we have are heavy hitters, ChampioNman and Seahorse. They try to answer EVERYONES...let me say that again. EVERYONES questions. SO. To say this board is usless is a slap in the face to those guys.

From way back when Rusty was helping me in the middle of the night to get an electrical issue squared away. To all the IM's I sent ChampioNman and stupid questions that I should know, he answered like a true professional and of cousre Seahorse....Always making sure everyone is getting the info they need to keep our engines running and our Etec guru.

Now to get back on subject. Evinrude has taken care of you very well and getting you back on the water. So you are getting a stronger, more reliable case and you are upset with that? You boat should be just as fast with the new case as it was with the last. Your not running a Stroker....it's a Phoenix.

As far as feel sorry for you and no one replied to the orignal post??? Why feel sorry...you were taken care of. Shit if my lower unit went down and Evinrude said I'll take care of you I would be calling up the buds, drinking beers and breaking out the old lawn darts!!

[clm6741]

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Didn't you have the same type of attitude on the other board ?</td></tr></table>

No I didnt Seahorse. If you go and read my first post on this thread there is nothing wrong with what I said. I didnt badmouth evinrude or anything. My point of posting this was to get some feedback from people who have changed from the L2 to the M2. I am very thankful and proud ot be an evinrude owner and always have been. I am glad they are taking care of me, and as I said in my first post Evinrude has the best Warranty Department.

The board is useless to ME when no one posts on a thread I started. This has happened to me several times on this forum where I may ask something simple or bring up something and very few if anybody even post on it, so it is sort of useless to me.

Hey JoePA im not trying to piss anybody off but a little concern from fellow Evinrude owners would have been nice on this forum but all I get is the rundown of questions of what "I" done to the motor basically. I didnt do anything im just wanting the massive powerhead of the E-tec to have something under it that will hold up but not sacrifice my performance.

Back to the original reason why I started this thread in the beginning. The Magnum2 s suppose to me a 1/4 inch thicker in diameter...... is this true? I dont see a 1/4 inch making 3-5 mph difference myself. Im just worried about losing my top end because 3 rangers in my club all had to make the change from lightening to magnum here in the last 1-2 years and they all lost speed. I dont know if they got it propped absolutely right but I know they are pretty close.

If anyone wants to add something uselful please do so but if not then just delete this thread please and I will not bring my problems here again.

[ChampioNman]

<table width="90%" cellspacing=0 cellpadding=0 align=center><tr><td>Quote, originally posted by clm6741 &raquo;</td></tr><tr><td class="quote">My L2 broke yesterday morning first thing. It was last day in a 2 day tournament. Evinrude is sending me a new M2 plus a 26 Rakr II. I love evinrudes and thei warranty department are outstanding. Im just sad that the L2 gearcases do not hold up. This motor was brand new in Septemer and I did NOT hit anything with it. I am hoping the M2 will not hurt my performance much. I will do some playing with the setup and who knows, it may be better. </td></tr></table>

I asked you some legit questions, No there is nothing wrong with posting it all over the world and as on as many boards as you want. Your original post is the exact quote you posted nothing altered. I wasn't making a smart ass comment at all and no way did I suggest it was your fault the case went out.
To me, your post seemed more like a comment instead of a question. No questioning or debate, just a comment.
You won't know how it will perform until it is put on period. Just keep in mind that the gear ratio will be different between the two with the M2 being a 1.85:1 as opposed to the L2's ratio of 1.71:1. BRP's engineers have determined that the 250 HO requires the SLE gear case (M2) and that is now the official gear case for it. You are also getting a new prop that they (BRP) feels will best suit your rig.

[evanmcguyer]

Championman when did Evinrude start making the M2 standard on the etec's?? I am running a 2009...just wondering if this is something I need to be concerned with?
Thanks
Evan

[DoferGofer]

<table width="90%" cellspacing=0 cellpadding=0 align=center><tr><td>Quote, originally posted by clm6741 &raquo;</td></tr><tr><td class="quote">

The board is useless to ME when no one posts on a thread I started.

If anyone wants to add something uselful please do so but if not then just delete this thread please and I will not bring my problems here again. </td></tr></table>

Let the doorknob hit ya where the good lord spit ya!!!!

[Promaxxum]

ChampioNman (any one)

I have a Stratos 201 with a 2011 250 HO with M2 SLE 1.85 gears and 8 inch Hyd JP. What prop should I get = 28 Raker??? Had a 26 Raker on my 2009 L2 gearcase 1.71 .

[ChampioNman]

BRP is giving Logan Main (clm6741) a Raker 2 in 26" I believe he said. The Phoenix and Stratos are kind of similar in profile so that should be right in your ball park. Maybe a 27 P tempest plus with the plugs to play with. See if you can find a dealer in your area that has a try before you buy program.

2011 is the first official year of the SLE (M 2) case. Not all the speed freaks are happy but in the end run they will be happier with the time they get to stay on the water.

[Promaxxum]

Im confused, I had a 2003 Stratos 200 Pro Xl with thw 1.85 gears and turned a 28 Raker no matter the load. But the 250 HO wont on a 201 XL? wow! I ran a 26 Raker on my 2009 201 with the 1.71 gears but was slow out of the hole. I hoped the M2 gearcase would turn a 28 Raker with a 250 HO on a 201. Thx,

[ccuboy123]

think about the gear ratio... you should definitly be able to turn the 28 on a 1.85. The 1.71 is like a darn sportmaster case. I cant believe they thought of that ratio and put them on boats like rangers. THere is no way they can utilize that gear with the load and setup. On a lighter 1500 lb hull and under maybe more effectively used. The sle will not show much difference in teh heavier hulls. bc the case will give lift which they need. but the hulls that dont need as much lift from the case itself need the prop to do the work. I would put a bet that the the sle case should be alittle faster on heavier boats. but would deifinitly decrease performance on the lighter hulls. Because i lost3-4 mph on my 03 tr 20. I can turn the same props and lose that much speed. Somehting isnt right. But to them its most like economics. Tired of replacing the cases so they made them heavier duty. To me its a good ole stump thumper. And by the way my 225ho is 2010 and has the sle case on it. but ift must of been the first produced before the 2011 year began.

[Promaxxum]

Has anyone tried a 28 Raker on the 2011 250 HO with m2 gearcase? I have a 2011 201 Stratos.

[ccuboy123]

you shouldnt have a problem with the motor and case setuo. seriouslyy..... should be fine i would think. Lot of HP on the motor

[quest290]

i've tested yesterday the "new"gearcase. it turns 6100 rpm (28 trophy stock) and gave 78.7 mph ( stratos copy 283). hole shot excelent. I was in an altitud of 2700 ft. will try a 27 fury this week but off course won't change the rpm. I think a hydromotive 29 or 30 will be needed

[Darth VMAX]

Curious, what about the 150HO lower-units? Are they being replaced as well?