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    1995 Johnson Fast Strike 150 Heat Soak issues, VRO problems, or something else?

    Hey all,

    I have a 95 Johnson Fast Strike 150HP (do not have model/serial # with me) and has been acting a little funky this year but especially the past few weeks. First of all, this entire season it has been a little harder to cold start than normal (with fishing more frequently as well) and is much smokier on start up as well. And even though I have been fishing more frequently, my oil consumption has seemingly been much higher than normal (already went through 6 gallons this season, normal year is 4 or so from March-November - I havent fished that much more than normal) which would coincide with the higher smoke and burning more oil.

    The new issue is more recent and has been similar to the "heat soak" symptoms I have seen described here for years. It cold starts and accelerates normal and then runs fine on the initial trip but as the day progresses, it will crank right up every time but try to accelerate and it bogs down and kills. Try it 6-8 times in a row then will take off and run great. This issue has been sporadic as well. You can stop and fish 5 spots then on the 6th one, the symptoms flare up. Then you are good to go for a little while again. The primer bulb stays semi-firm and I have been able to get the boat to accelerate better when I have a buddy pump the bulb as I throttle up. When it starts having its issues, I have tried pushing the key primer in on acceleration and hasn't made much difference. I have also tried to high idle then take off and that hasn't helped tons either. Sometimes the motor does just bog down and die when I put it in gear also when it is having its fits - I don't even get to the throttle up part. So the symptoms sound somewhat like the common heat soak issue but not entirely (it does seem to happen on warm sunny days more but has been cloudy and cooler sometimes too). I have had this motor for 7 years and never experienced anything like this. I have not tried the idle adjustment yet that was recommended.

    My only other thought (and agreement from a mechanic friend of mine) is that my VRO pump is finally giving up the ghost with the increased oil usage as well as the seemingly fuel delivery problems (especially with pumping the bulb while taking off and pushing more fuel into motor helping). I know the VRO is a combo oil/fuel pump and culprit of issues with these older motors but before I spend $400 on a new one and putting it in, I would like to get input from BBC if they think that this could be a logical thing and ways to find out if the VRO is the true root of the problem.

    As far as other components on motor, water pump was replaced 2 years ago, carbs were replaced 3 years ago (fuel bulb and line replaced then too), stator/flywheel replaced last year (that one was expensive) and power packs last replaced last year too.

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    Please do a search on 'heat soak' your issue has been discussed ad nauseum here

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    Gotcha - I have looked at probably 50 threads on it but I was just wondering if these actually arent "heat soak" symptoms and could instead be VRO-related. I'll just use the search function then and see what I can find.

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    Search this- posts by 316jughead. You will find all you want to know.

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    I had some intermittent issues similar to yours for two years with my 91 Intruder. First dealer suspected carb issue, and put six new carbs. Didn't help the intermittent bogging. Second marina while up in Canada diagnosed and replaced the powerpack. Been great since. Not saying that's your problem, since you indicate that the pack was replaced a year ago. It's frustrating when it's very intermittent. I had my VRO quit on me many years ago, but it never gave me intermittent issues. Just quit working, and got alarms to warn me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 316jughead View Post
    Search this- posts by 316jughead. You will find all you want to know.
    Some of the things to look for. Use more oil - air in the fuel lines. Bogging on take off - air in the fuel line, ethanol fuel, carb roller sleeve missing, timing and carbs not in sync, VST tank and pump not serviced, VST tank top warped, carb idle jets adjustment, Idle timing. Other causes, low idle rpm, open thermostats, non OEM primer bulb. I've probably left something out, that's from getting old and forgetful. Then of course ignition problems. Spark plugs should be Champion QL78YC gap at .030. If the VRO was not pumping enough fuel, you should get a solid warning horn at higher rpm's. Solutions can be found by searching.

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    Thanks for your replies. Still having issues, they cropped up quicker yet today. Motor started fine and ran a bit but next start up had the issues. I will try adjusting the idle screw by carbs first, maybe one full turn to start like has been suggested. Does a regular Allen head fit through that access hole to adjust it? I also have seen the suggestions to replace the intermediate air orifices and go smaller. I looked at my motor and saw there are #38s in there right now. So not sure what size to go down but maybe 36s to start. Any suggestions welcome.

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    95 should be slotted they didn't change to the pentalobe until the late 90's early 00's. No don't mess with the orifices, no need that's why you have the jets. The orifice changes are for the early 90's that have fixed idle and mid range orifices.

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    This sounds like a failing VRO pump. Mine did exactly what yours is doing, I deleted the VRO all together and replaced the pump with a setup that uses stacked fuel pumps and I premix now. It starts right up now and the issue completely went away.