Mac, Ordered 9 new Frogs today,seven from the web site you sent me the rest from cabela's. BPF had limited colors in stock but I picked up 6 of them and one TP in the Green I like. Not only are Bobby's heavier but the legsare thicker up near the body on the Tourny Pro's. I will let you know about the two Bully wa's I got from Cabelas.