What is the best improvements I can do on my Curado E7's, E5's and E 50. Do I just need to upgrade the bearings? Any help will be appreciated.
What is the best improvements I can do on my Curado E7's, E5's and E 50. Do I just need to upgrade the bearings? Any help will be appreciated.
Replacing bearings does amazing things to the overall smoothness of casting and retrieving...but don't expect it to add miles to your casts. I upgraded my E5 with Boca Orange Seal bearings and a set of Carbontex Drag washers. Besides that you can polish the spool bearing surfaces and add a couple drops of oil...but again, don't expect it to add miles to a cast. I think the most beneficial upgrade out of those three were the drag washers...I easily added 4 lbs of drag with those washers...which is huge!
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All I did to mine was clean the excessive Shimano grease and oil from everything, add ABEC 7 SS spool bearing from Matt at BigGreenFish.com, relube with Yellow Rocket fuel and Superlube and left the factory drag alone until later. Performance is great.
<table width="90%" cellspacing=0 cellpadding=0 align=center><tr><td>Quote, originally posted by HalBrown »</td></tr><tr><td class="quote">All I did to mine was clean the excessive Shimano grease and oil from everything, add ABEC 7 SS spool bearing from Matt at BigGreenFish.com, relube with Yellow Rocket fuel and Superlube and left the factory drag alone until later. Performance is great.</td></tr></table>
+1 for all my Shimano baitcasters.
Ken Kipler
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I know people say the bearings come packed with grease but is the spool bearing the only one i need to degrease and put a drop of oil iN? I know there's another bearing in the reel but I should pull it out and do the same to it or will degreasing the spool bearing be sufficient?
They aint got hands, set the hook
The reels have two spool bearing, which require a tiny drop of quality oil after you clean them well (I use lighter fluid and some use brake cleaner). There is a large pinion bearing, which most pack in grease and there is a bearing at the base of the drive shaft. Some grease that bearing and some just use oil in it ( I use ReelX in the drive shaft bearing). Use oil in the handle bearings.
The more oil you add to the bearings, the slower the reel will free spool. I have replaced my spool bearings and pinion bearing with Boca Orange seals, and I use 1 drop of hot sauce in each. You have to oil more frequently that way but you will get better performance. Other than that, Carbontex drag washers and supertuning the friction points of the spool shaft and pinion gear is about it.
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<table width="90%" cellspacing=0 cellpadding=0 align=center><tr><td>Quote, originally posted by t_nipper_74 »</td></tr><tr><td class="quote">The more oil you add to the bearings, the slower the reel will free spool. I have replaced my spool bearings and pinion bearing with Boca Orange seals, and I use 1 drop of hot sauce in each. You have to oil more frequently that way but you will get better performance. Other than that, Carbontex drag washers and supertuning the friction points of the spool shaft and pinion gear is about it. </td></tr></table>
Since the Pinion Bearing is a low speed bearing, there is no practical advantage to replacing it. The standard BNT2170 greased bearing works fine there and the grease does a better job of keeping any water out of the bearing.
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+1 Doc, and do yourself a favor and loose the red stuff ;)
Dan
Well, i agree with all the others but ill pm you what you need. and you WILL BE CASTING A MILE
Not trying to jack your post.. but what bearing upgrades would be better for the reel? ABEC 9 ceramic hybrids or Boca Orange Seal ABEC 7s? I know the 9s are of a higher quality but in a reel can you really tell the difference?
Shimano's position is that bearing RPM is more a function of the quality of the bearing than the ABEC rating, citing that a high quality ABEC 3 will outperform a low quality ABEC 5 and that a variable braking system (VBS) has an affect on spool speed. In addition, since a good baitcaster (and not a digital controlled) will only reach a max of 20,000 to 25,000 RPM with a VBS, an ABEC 9 bearing will have a negligible affect on spool performance (according to Shimano).
The digital controlled (DC) Calais will max at 30,000 RPM because there is less mass on the spool and no (VBS) and this reel has grease free high quality SS ABEC 3 bearings.
Bottom line - if you want to upgrade your bearings, be sure you go to a high quality ABEC 5, 7.
Modified by HalBrown at 9:38 AM 2/16/2012
Thanks for the suggestions and the im's. I will prolbay be going with Boca Orange Abec 7 on both spool bearings and upgrading to a carbontex drag washer.
<table width="90%" cellspacing=0 cellpadding=0 align=center><tr><td>Quote, originally posted by triton2 »</td></tr><tr><td class="quote">Thanks for the suggestions and the im's. I will prolbay be going with Boca Orange Abec 7 on both spool bearings and upgrading to a carbontex drag washer.</td></tr></table>
that's all ya need to do!
Note: Don't over oil the bearings, or over grease the drag washers
2 small drops of oil per bearing, and put just a light "film" of grease on the drag washers.
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