yes they say cheney has more than eldorado , just they are in the larve stage right now, but when el dorado was at it's worse , the fish were easy to pattern once you new what too look for , my partner and I would tear them up , I do not think they clean the lakes as well as people say, but if you know what to look for they help you locate fish, but when el dorado had them on all the trees you had to fish with 60 lb braid, some places in Lake of Ozarks have alot also, a year ago I fished there and cut off several nice fish, they cut mono like a hot butter knife