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    Michigan - Leading the Way

    https://www.wlns.com/news/governor-s...-green-energy/

    LANSING, Mich. (WLNS) — A new plan to transition all state-owned vehicles to ZEVs (zero emission vehicles) is going forward.
    This would apply to all light-duty vehicles, like cars, vans, SUVs, and cruisers by the end of the decade. Heavy-duty vehicles like trucks and other industrial vehicles will have until 2040 to make the change.
    The executive directive that set this in motion was signed by Governor Gretchen Whitmer on Tuesday. The governor says that this program will reduce air pollution, and boost demand for Michigan-made electric vehicles.
    “Michigan automakers are on the cutting-edge of the world’s switch to zero-emission vehicles, and with today’s executive directive to transition our state-owned fleet by 2040, the State of Michigan is leading by example,” Whitmer said.
    The new executive directive will instruct all state departments and agencies to prioritize ZEVs in their fleet, specifically for the vehicles that are traveling the most miles.
    Other goals include making sure that these efforts are focused on communities that have been impacted the most by air pollution. Increasing the state charging infrastructure to cater to all these vehicles and establish clear guidelines for circumstances that need an exemption.
    This move coincides with last week’s historic clean energy legislation, and it means that state-owned cars will be charging up using only clean energy by 2040. Efforts like this have put Michigan into the national spotlight as a leader when it comes to the green energy transition.
    The use of the term “zero emission vehicles” instead of “electric vehicles” was most likely made to include future technologies like hydrogen-powered vehicles, which are expected to be more reliable for heavy-duty jobs. The extended deadline for heavy vehicles in Tuesday’s directive is reflected by the fact that these technologies are still a few years away.
    Companies are still trying to figure out where these powertrains are going to be manufactured, and Michigan’s new initiatives help put up early demand for the growing market. U.A.W. President Shawn Fain also applauded the move, saying this will have a positive effect on auto workers.
    “The UAW applauds the State of Michigan for showing that the electric vehicle transition doesn’t have to be a race to the bottom,” Fain said. “We encourage the state to purchase union-made EVs for all state vehicles, giving America’s autoworkers their fair share of this historic moment for the American auto industry”.





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    Why not, when it flops it's not her money and it still will not cost here any votes so what is there to lose?
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    Quote Originally Posted by 61Woody View Post
    Why not, when it flops it's not her money and it still will not cost here any votes so what is there to lose?
    Stretchin' Gretchen is seriously being considered for a Presidential run in 2028...she's doing this to increase her appeal among the base she needs to support her.

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    I understand it takes way less workers to build an EV than an ice vehicle. UAW and auto workers better be ready for some layoffs. Why not just let the free market work? Why does a government have to get involved. Sounds like communism.

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    Quote Originally Posted by yatesville88fan View Post
    I understand it takes way less workers to build an EV than an ice vehicle. UAW and auto workers better be ready for some layoffs. Why not just let the free market work? Why does a government have to get involved. Sounds like communism.
    The government is merely here to save us from ourselves with their infinite wisdom.

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    Quote Originally Posted by yatesville88fan View Post
    I understand it takes way less workers to build an EV than an ice vehicle. UAW and auto workers better be ready for some layoffs. Why not just let the free market work? Why does a government have to get involved. Sounds like communism.
    Our EV powertrain lines are still working 24/7 ...Made more money since the transition to Electric on OT than I ever have..Of course just like Ice vehicles that can change with a drop of a hat..
    Last edited by brnzbaklvr; 12-06-2023 at 12:46 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by yatesville88fan View Post
    I understand it takes way less workers to build an EV than an ice vehicle. UAW and auto workers better be ready for some layoffs. Why not just let the free market work? Why does a government have to get involved. Sounds like communism.
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    Leading the way or veering off course down a gravel road?? Only time will tell.
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    Is it just me but havent there been a bunch of articles in the last couple of weeks about how the big 3 cant move EVs and have lots full of them?? Are also losing Billions because of it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by team houston View Post
    Is it just me but havent there been a bunch of articles in the last couple of weeks about how the big 3 cant move EVs and have lots full of them?? Are also losing Billions because of it.
    Not just you, and you are correct.

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    Quote Originally Posted by team houston View Post
    Is it just me but havent there been a bunch of articles in the last couple of weeks about how the big 3 cant move EVs and have lots full of them?? Are also losing Billions because of it.
    Record sales last month...that doesnt fit the narrative but drive on..
    https://bazaartimes.com/ford-f-150-l...g-in-november/
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    Quote Originally Posted by brnzbaklvr View Post
    Record sales last month...that doesnt fit the narrative but drive on..
    https://bazaartimes.com/ford-f-150-l...g-in-november/
    https://www.theverge.com/2023/10/26/...ne-q3-earnings


    https://fortune.com/2023/07/28/ford-...023-ev-losses/
    Last edited by castforcash; 12-06-2023 at 01:11 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by brnzbaklvr View Post
    Record sales last month...that doesnt fit the narrative but drive on..
    https://bazaartimes.com/ford-f-150-l...g-in-november/
    not hard to do when sales were just recently 0

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    Quote Originally Posted by TroyBoy30 View Post
    not hard to do when sales were just recently 0
    Yep. They sold something like 650,000 ICE trucks in 2022. Lightning sales have a Loooonnnggg way to go.

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    Quote Originally Posted by brnzbaklvr View Post
    Record sales last month...that doesnt fit the narrative but drive on..
    https://bazaartimes.com/ford-f-150-l...g-in-november/


    If you are starting to sell "new" products shouldn't every month be a record setting month since you started at zero? Isn't tgat just semantics?


    Is this article and the hundred just like it from every source imaginable wrong? Ford's CEO is quoted in this one. Is he wrong?

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    Yep, Xichigan leading the way right into the dumps. Wonder if the Flint residents think that Xichigan is leading the way?

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    Yep, Xichigan leading the way right into the dumps. Wonder if the Flint residents think that Xichigan is leading the way?
    Flint was the prior regime....and they all walked free men despite the loss of lives..
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    They said the " horseless carriage " would never replace the horse.

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    Quote Originally Posted by unknown angler View Post
    They said the " horseless carriage " would never replace the horse.
    Apples and zucchini comparison.

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    You can pull a horse over about anywhere and give him some rest, some water and hay for fuel. What are you going to do with that horseless carriage when you are running out of gas 20 miles from the nearest gas station.

    Quote Originally Posted by unknown angler View Post
    They said the " horseless carriage " would never replace the horse.

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