I been looking at the website and checking out the new allison design. I think its exactly what i want/need in a bassboat. the only question i have is how could i possibly afford one? rumor i hear is around 50K for a loaded one with a 250xs. i sure cant afford that. so some of u guys that have them tell me what i can do to figure out how to put myself in one of them.
Well, I would say you are in the same boat..........no pun intended........LOL....as most people. I don't have any great suggestions for you. If I did, I would probably have a new one myself. The pricing has put many people out of the market. I would hang in there and try to find a used one although it's slim pickins and they are still a pretty big chunck of change. Good Luck!
There are some good deals out there on the xb 2002, xb 2003, but the newer models are still pretty fresh and pricy.
2023 Allison XB-21 BasSport Pro Elite / 2023 Mercury 300R
2024 Xpress X21 / Yamaha 250 SHO (SOLD)
2022 Allison XB-21 BasSport Pro Elite / 2022 Mercury 300R (Sold)
Call Allison... They had a demo at Jasper last month that they were ready to sell.
You might get a little price break!!!
Marty...
jim4596,
One way is to purchase the Allison with a 200xs instead of the 250xs, it will still blow away most others that have 250's. Also remember this boat & motor combination is very economical making it much less expensive to own & operate monthly than other 20 & 21 footers, plus you're just cruisin along while they're running wide open trying to keep up.
Lee
i believe i am going to wait a year or two, and by then maybe i can find a used one. i really like them, but i can buy a whole lot of stuff for 50k that wont depreciate.
I've been thinking about this a lot since I seen this post... I think I've finally got it figured out!!! I think the second most worried about thing(making the payment being the first) people think about is the fact that how bad a "$50K" boat will depreciate... One thing to remember is that once you by yourself a Allison, If you're like most people.... You are gonna want to keep it for a long long time... These boats are more of an addiction than a investment... One other thing to think of is... If you would buy one(BasSport Pro) and decide that it wasn't what you wanted... I don't think it would be real hard to sell considering all the guys out ther wanting one... Just my opinion... Darryl...
what would the payments be, $1k a month for 5 years. thats pretty steep.
Notice my boat in not new... I bought it used for roughly 1/2 the price of a new one two months ago.... Thats the only reason I got mine... I understand that buying a new one would be a big step... But remember... You can have a $50,000 Allison or you can have a $50.000 "CookieCutter" boat.... After the five years of payments, I think I know which one will be worth more...
Jim,
You can get a 15 year note.
But That is the last thing I would recommend.
And what fun would having a nice boat be if it takes every dime you make just to pay the monthly payment and insurance.
It took me 15 years of (trading up) if you will ! To get where I am now. I just bought a 2006 and it will be paid for in 4 years with payments of less than 250.00 a month.
I guess my point to all this is-------Unless you are extremely wealthy you CAN'T afford to just go buy a 55k dollar rig. And still have enough money to go fishing.........
My advise would be like you said save some money and Wait for a used one a few years down the road......... Or buy a used 2003--- pay it off and trade up in a few years.
Whatever you do don't get yourself in a financial hole that you will never get out of. Especially if you have a family------------it will only cause you lots of heart ache.
Regards
MDK
Excellent advice fishnfiremen, nothing is worth strapping yourself and family financially. Buy a used one and enjoy, it's a much better investment if you can find a 'good' one that hasn't been trashed.
2023 Allison XB-21 BasSport Pro Elite / 2023 Mercury 300R
2024 Xpress X21 / Yamaha 250 SHO (SOLD)
2022 Allison XB-21 BasSport Pro Elite / 2022 Mercury 300R (Sold)
Just another perspective on this............I have known many people who throughout their lives had to always have the biggest, the best, the most expensive, the fastest etc. whatever it may be at the time. Most of those types of people are driven more by impressing others than evaluating their purchases by what their real needs and likes are. For example, I have had an old Winner Fish and Ski, a Champion Fish and Ski and now an Allison. I have enjoyed all those boats. I have a 16 ft Alumacraft with a 15 horse motor. Believe it or not, I enjoy going out on it just as much as I do the Allison. My wife and I spent the day Saturday on it fishing a local lake. It was a great day! My point is that I really believe that someone who enjoys boating, fishing, water sports etc. can do so regardless if their boat is the biggest, fastest, best riding, hull. I have seen many people who had very expensive boats with all the frills who simply didn't enjoy them at all because once the impressing the friends and neighbors went away, so did their real reason for the purchase. Pretty sad! My advice is to buy what you can afford and enjoy it because a huge boat payment for too many years will sap most of the enjoyment out of you and you will regret your decision.
Good advice Catfish and Fishnfireman. I said it before on this board..There are more boats out there that cost just as much as the NEW Ally. Rangers....Tritons...Storm...Gamblers are just as much nicely equipped.
well i think if someone pays as much for a triton or stratos or whatever brand as an ally cost then they are an idiot, cause i have found a lot of good deals in the upper 30k's for those boats, so if they are paying 55k, then that dealer saw them coming and suckered them in. not trying to hurt anyones feelings, just being realistic. the stricker prices on those boats may be that high, but i have never paid sticker price for a boat or truck. so then that points to the fact, is an ally worth 20k more than any other boat thats made? i know they are fast, but im just trying to figure things out. by reading the reports a stroker seems to be right up there with them, but i dont know for sure. i have never seen a stroker and dont know much about them. I know the price i was quoted for a stroker was quite a bit more reasonable than the ally price (around 15k less). so u guys throw your opinions out there about all this. i mean 15k to 20k difference is almost a big enough difference to pay for half of a new rig to tow it with.
Jim
Im just like you about that,
If I had to give sticker price for any vehicle or boat It would not happen.
it took me two months of phone calls. before I bought this boat and the last one.
In my opinion when Allison "lost Jaco" as a dealer ,I for one think it hurt there sales, he was the only Dealer (and there arn't but 6 that I can find) who would sell you a boat at a discount.
I sure don't want to start any wars here. But if you are after speed the best thing you can do is go ride in a Stroker then an Allison and be SURE to do it on some rough water. Before you make a buy.
If you are in to the speed nothing will run with an Allison Horse- power to horse- power.
As for fishability untill I got this new Allsion I would have to say there were a lot of boats that would beat the Allison. Now that I've Had a chance to fish this new hull for 2 months. I have found MY best Pick.
One more thing to consider is the economy.
My fishing partner has my old 209 Gambler--A Z71 pickup will average up to 2 mpg better pulling the Allison.
On a big lake where we are running about 40 plus miles a day with a 225 pmax vs 225 efi it will use 6 gallons less in The A.
And I am NOT trying to sell you or anyone on the Allison.
I like have something that no one else has.
well like i said, i havent even seen a stroker. in fact, the only allisons i have even been around are the older ones. i haven seen the new model up close, but i think it is exactly what i would like to have, just trying to figure out the money part.
if money is a problem, dont buy new... buy used! granted the new 21' is definately the best fishing platform that allison has made. However, if you can stand to loose a bit of fishablity, you can easily get yourself in the performance of an allison for less than 15k, and less than 10k if you really shop around
Fishnfireman,
I'm sure you are correct saying that Allison lost sales when they dropped Jaco's, but what you don't see is the reason they do not have many dealers @ this time is that other dealers could not sell for the prices Jaco's did and stay in buisness. The reason is that Jaco's was using the boats for transoms only, in other words, selling the boats @ zero profit & buying motors in high volume @ better prices than other dealers could afford. Allison could not get new dealers to take on their boats, as they would call the #1 dealer to get a quote to see what the profit margin may be, after that phone call they would see that it was useless, no profit. Yes dealers do have to make some type of profit to stay in buisness, if we made 1/4 of the profit that most think we make we'd have it made. I don't know of any dealer that sells for retail, they are all working off of a very small profit margin.
Lee
Lee,
You are 100% correct..........
I had a very long reply all typed out.
But I don't think me airing some dirty laundry on here is good for anyone.
I will say this there are several great folks who sell these fine boats.
There is also one who is bound to run out of new pigeons soon because, his repeat business is a little slow
maybe some day I will tell you the whole story!
Modified by fishnfireman at 9:16 PM 11/9/2005
I just bought Jimmy7 XTB 21' 225 Promax for $8000. You can't beat that. Granted the front deck is small but is open and easy to walk around anyhow. It smokes anything out there with pedal to spare. Buy used and don't keep up with the Joneses pass them with less money,less power, less fuel cost and a better ride! Later Gators
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