It will start. Ides very rough. When you try to give it gas it dies.
I fogged the engine last fall. emptied the full filters changed lower unit oil. ext ext. Its seems like its not getting fuel. Any Help
2.6 L 200HP HPDI
It will start. Ides very rough. When you try to give it gas it dies.
I fogged the engine last fall. emptied the full filters changed lower unit oil. ext ext. Its seems like its not getting fuel. Any Help
2.6 L 200HP HPDI
Try changing the plugs or taking them out and cleaning them. You were not suppose to Fog a HPDI motor, it messes up the injectors. Hope yours didn't get clogged up.
How does spraying oil in the cylinders mess up the injectors just asking? I read where people do it all the time I am not saying you are wrong just asking
Are you trying to give it throttle in gear or out of gear? The HPDIs in neutral only run on 4 clyinders. Giving that engine throttle in neutral it will stall. The timing is set for 6 cylinders and will not accept gas without it being in gear when all cylinders are firing. As far as what I understand about my 08 250 HPDI. Try putting it in gear and then throttle. Hope this helps.
I did forget about it running off 4 cylinders in Nutral. But it still should idel about half way good its dieing sometimes. Maybe the plugs are bad after the fogging.
the manual says to fog the motor prior to prolonged storage. pg 50 of the 175 hpdi manual.
I see that for the bigger 3.3L it says to take the plugs out and pour motor oil in each cylinder and crank the motor several times before replacing plugs. I wonder if that's what I should be doing too??????
I don't see how spraying fogging oil directly into the cylinder can clog an injector given that it's the injector that sprays into the cylinder.
I believe somewhere in there you'll find the word "OR" you can use fogging oil OR 1 ounce of oil into each cylinder.
I'd have to think it is something else... Check your plugs next... perhaps also check for water in your gas? just some ideas.
Current: 2006 ~ 20i ~ 250 HPDI ~ T1-25p
Previous: 2005 ~ ZX 225 ~ 250 HPDI Phase III - TXP 26p
Update: I went home and started it and put it in gear and it did rev. up. So that helped but you can still tell its not right. When you put it back in neutral it bucks around and if you give it any gas it dies. I got some new plugs today and I will try that next.
I wouldn't think its the gas I topped it off before the winter. and put in sea-foam and stay-bill marine
Ok so I changed the plugs and it will rev up now. Even in neutral so everything seems fine.
All tho I do have another Question for you guys. When looking at the engine running. I was watching the gas in the clear tube where the filter is. the gas level seem to drop down to the bottom of the paper filter. Its still on the paper but on the lower side of it. I pump the bulb and it will fill all the way back up. then it drops back down. But it seems to be running fine. Is this normal????
No, sounds like you have a air leak before the filter (you are talking about the inline fuel filter, not the engine filter bowl right?).
I had this issue with a 25hp Johnson one time. Problem was traced to the pickup tube in the 6 gallon portable tank on the fuel fitting. It was old and just did not seal like it should. Can also be a leak at any of the fuel fittings between the tank and the motor. Check the clamps and make sure your hose is not stressed or cracking.
Does it stay full of fuel when it is running? Sometimes the inline water seperator filter under the cowling will not be completely full. Does the primer bulb stay firm after you prime the engine without it running?
Yes this is the one under the cover. The gas bowl you can see threw. It has a filter in it and a black float under it witha spring. I think it is the water separator filter. The bulb does stay pretty tight. I can give it a pump and bring the gas back to the top but it goes back down after 30 seconds of running.
The black float if water level exceeds a specific volume the warnng device will activate. The water seperator indicator will blink and the buzzer will sound intermittenly when the gear shift is in neutral. My water seperator filter under the cowling doesnt stay completely full either but runs fine. Most of the the techinical stuff I have just learned by trial and error and doing it myself.
Ok thanks, It sounds like I am good to go then
I don't think this is normal and here is why.
That ring and spring are part of the water sensor system. The ring starts to float if there is water in the bowl and trips the sensor. Now if your fuel level is not "normal" and is low like it sounds like it is, you may not get enough "float" action to trip the water sensor if you have water in your fuel (which is pretty dang common now days with E10 everywhere). Trying to ingest water into your engine is a bad thing and leads to blown power heads.
I think you have a fuel restriction or air leak in the system ahead of that filter. It's either not feeding fuel fast enough to keep the bowl full or is leaking air and having the same effect. It sounds like your system is on the verge of being starved for fuel.
Since you talked about it stalling after coming out of storage, I would think you are not yet running it WOT on the lake. If this is showing up at low to medium throttle levels (ie, on the muffs), then at WOT you are going to starve for sure.
Just my take on this
Maybe we on this board could see some posts from certified master mechanics instead of just trying to help each other with experiences of problems solved. That would be greatly beneficial.
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