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    Is it possible for separate temp readings?

    Is it possible to get separate temp readings from each head? I know smartcraft averages them but I would like to know separate readings to more closely monitor the T-stats.

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    Re: Is it possible for separate temp readings? (bloodman)

    <TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by bloodman &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Is it possible to get separate temp readings from each head? I know smartcraft averages them but I would like to know separate readings to more closely monitor the T-stats.</TD></TR></TABLE>

    This "can" be done with a DDT, or the Computer Diagnostic System.

    Outside of that, an "average" temp is what you've got available.

    One thing to note: The "average" setup works quite well with Smartcraft. On 3 liter models.... if a thermostat is sticking "open".... you will NOT reach 120 degrees at idle (many times, you're lucky to reach even 105 degrees).



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    Re: Is it possible for separate temp readings? (EuropeanAM)

    I have a boat with a 2.5xs on it. The water temp gauge was never hooked up. I bought a Merc System Monitor gauge to give me lots of info. The problem was I still had a water temp gauge in the dash that didn't work. I built a bracket, so the temp sending unit would screw in and butt up tight up against the head. It worked great, I now have water temp with the Smartcraft gauge and the head temp with the other gauge. You could add one to each head if you wanted to.

    Its interesting to see the water temp come up and the head temp lag behind. Same thing happens when you take off, the water temp comes down, but it takes a little while for the head temp to drop.
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    Re: Is it possible for separate temp readings? (Baja 252)

    Thats kinda what I'm looking for. I am wondering if there are any other locations in the block where this could be mounted say to monitor inner block temps or something.. Would you have a photo of your unit?

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    Re: Is it possible for separate temp readings? (bloodman)

    Sorry I don't have a photo, next time I go to the lake I'll take a photo of it if you want.
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    Re: Is it possible for separate temp readings? (Baja 252)

    Ya, that would be great. Nice idea too.

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    Re: Is it possible for separate temp readings? (Baja 252)

    <TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Baja 252 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I have a boat with a 2.5xs on it. The water temp gauge was never hooked up. I bought a Merc System Monitor gauge to give me lots of info. The problem was I still had a water temp gauge in the dash that didn't work. I built a bracket, so the temp sending unit would screw in and butt up tight up against the head. It worked great, I now have water temp with the Smartcraft gauge and the head temp with the other gauge. You could add one to each head if you wanted to.

    Its interesting to see the water temp come up and the head temp lag behind. Same thing happens when you take off, the water temp comes down, but it takes a little while for the head temp to drop.</TD></TR></TABLE>

    The "lag" you see is because the sending units are mounted EXTERNALLY. The "water temp" sending units are mounted INSIDE the cylinder head, and are acutally reading water temp in the cylinder head. Hence, they reflect temperature variances more rapidly.

    Not knocking your idea.... it's been done for many years (although the accuracy of this type of sender setup is always questionable).



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    Re: Is it possible for separate temp readings? (EuropeanAM)

    <TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by EuropeanAM &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

    The "lag" you see is because the sending units are mounted EXTERNALLY. The "water temp" sending units are mounted INSIDE the cylinder head, and are acutally reading water temp in the cylinder head. Hence, they reflect temperature variances more rapidly.

    Not knocking your idea.... it's been done for many years (although the accuracy of this type of sender setup is always questionable).

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    No problem Don, I know your right. I had a extra hole in the dash, so I put the water temp gauge in. I didn't want the gauge to read nothing, so I hooked the sender up externally. When I want accurate info I look at my system moniter.
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    Re: Is it possible for separate temp readings? (Baja 252)

    Is it possible to use the current temp probes to split the readings??????

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    Re: Is it possible for separate temp readings? (bloodman)

    <TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by bloodman &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Is it possible to use the current temp probes to split the readings??????</TD></TR></TABLE>

    That's going to depend on WHICH ENGINE you have.

    However.... with ANY of the Optimax models (and most of the later EFI models), this is NOT a possibility. Anything tied into the sensors will alter the resistance value (and the resulting voltage the PCM "sees", which will result in inappropriate fuel delivery).



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    Re: Is it possible for separate temp readings? (EuropeanAM)

    Gotcha. Thanks again Don.

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