well first the lightening went and now the motor!!!!

[clm6741]

I am 90% sure the powerhead went to chit this morning. I was running and it just lost power set down saking with water coming out of the cowling and died. I tried to crank it back up and it just locked up. I started with a 2010 but it looks I may end up with a 2011 afterall. I wonder if the stress from the lightening 2 going into reverse had a role in this failure??? Im taking it to shop monday.

[ChampioNman]

That could very well be. BRP will fix you right up. Just make sure your dealer verifies this is the reason it blew if it indeed did.

[clm6741]

well I am taking it in the morning to my mechanics and they will get right on it but I am of the opinion that BRP should just send me a whiole new 2011 crate motor to put on it. See when I bought the boat they told me I would have to wait an extra month for the 2011 motor or I could get the 2010 now. I chose to get the one now but since I have had nothing but trouble out if it since I got it I feel I may have gotten a friday afternoon motor. From day one the starter was screwed up, they replaced it with a new one under warranty, then the lower unit, and now the powerhead (most likely). Just my opinion that a motor with less than 30 hours and has had this many problems needs a replacement. what do you think?

[SEAHORSE]

What we think doesn't count. We all want a trouble free motor and not to spend any money.

It is up to the dealer tech and the factory to determine what happened and what can be done to correct the cause. Your tech's conversation with the factory, and the dealer going to bat for you, increases the odds in your favor - as long as the problem was not a boat, impact, fuel contamination, or other unrelated fault.

[ChampioNman]

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Exactly!

[DoferGofer]

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Exactly!
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[clm6741]

well I was right about it busting the block. #6 cylinder slung a rod or something thru the block. The report checked out good and no codes were on it. The last trip (black box) report is actually very cool I think. BRP is sending a new 2011 Fully dressed powerhead today. It will take 4-5 days to get here so I probably wont have it for weekend but im hoping by wednesday.

So now I have a 2011 gearcase and 2011 powerhead, which basically gives me a 2011 right??? The midsection is same on both motors and has no moving parts so its no big deal right???

Thanks for your opinions.

[ChampioNman]

Seeing the tilt/trim is the same and if there is nothing wrong with the tuner then yes you would have basically a 2011 motor. Only thing that would indicate it is a 2010 would be the model/serial # tag. But by running your serial number on Dealer Port would show all the work that has been logged against it.

[SEAHORSE]

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Whenever the diagnostic software and laptop is hooked up, the tech will get a message that it is a replacement powerhead and to use the correct model number when ordering parts, repairing, or making adjustments. there will be an R in the number.

The powerhead is no longer original, but a 2011 with all the benefits and changes over previous models.

[sandbarDan]

well at least the original bracket tilt and trim still works

[clm6741]

Dan,

To be clear the powerhead most likely blew due to damage caused from the LU snapping into reverse at 76mph..... It didnt just blow up for no reason. This is the opinion of myself, my mechanics, and brp techs.

[boogerdoc2]

How can a lower unit go into reverse at 76?

[clm6741]

<table width="90%" cellspacing=0 cellpadding=0 align=center><tr><td>Quote, originally posted by boogerdoc2 &raquo;</td></tr><tr><td class="quote">How can a lower unit go into reverse at 76?

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Well let me be a little clearer, we all think it went into reverse and by going into reverse I mean something came apart inside the gear case and caused it to either lock up instantly or go into reverse. The prop shaft splines were twisted to the right, I posted a pic in an earlier thread somewhere that shows the twist. We are not exactly clear what happened or how it happened but it happened at 76 mph 6000 rpms full fuel and 2 guys so there was some torque and shock associated with the failure. BRP and my mechanics think it damaged the powerhead somehow and that is why it slung the #6. Either way BRP is being very quick and concise on hte new powerhead which i am thankful for. Their warranty department are good to work with.

[stratos284]

<table width="90%" cellspacing=0 cellpadding=0 align=center><tr><td>Quote, originally posted by clm6741 &raquo;</td></tr><tr><td class="quote">Dan,

To be clear the powerhead most likely blew due to damage caused from the LU snapping into reverse at 76mph..... It didnt just blow up for no reason. This is the opinion of myself, my mechanics, and brp techs. </td></tr></table>
I bet money that if that happened, that was the cause for the delayed rod chunk

[clm6741]

Yeah, my mechanics and BRP thinks the same thing. I took it to the mechanics monday and evinrude shipped a fully dressed powerhead that arrived friday evening. My guys are gonna put it on tomorrow, now how is that for fast service???

[clm6741]

By the eway I got my boat back this past monday. It was at the shop for exactly one week and I left with a new 2011 fully dressed powerhead. Now how is that for quick warranty service??? You cant beat it.

[clm6741]

Also for Seahorse and Championman,

They conducted the fuel flow test when they put the new powerhead on there and ill be damned if it wasnt getting air. There were thumbnail size air bubbles consistently every 3 seconds. As you are probably thinking it was sucking air inside the tank at the top. The fuel intake hose that phoenix installed in the tank was sucking air at the ferril clamp (???) up top where it went on the nipple. It is a simple problem and cheap but can really do some damage dont you say. BRP and my guys are not sure if that or the LU failure caused the powerhead to blow, but fortunately for me the BRP warranty people are wonderful and so is Gulf Coast Marine in Gulfport, MS. Phoenix sent a new pickup tube.

[SEAHORSE]

<table width="90%" cellspacing=0 cellpadding=0 align=center><tr><td>Quote, originally posted by clm6741 &raquo;</td></tr><tr><td class="quote">Also for Seahorse and Championman,

They conducted the fuel flow test when they put the new powerhead on there and ill be damned if it wasnt getting air. There were thumbnail size air bubbles consistently every 3 seconds. As you are probably thinking it was sucking air inside the tank at the top.
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How many powerheads would you have gone through and how pissed would you have been at Evinrude if your dealer did not perform the fuel delivery test and find the air leak problem?

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<table width="90%" cellspacing=0 cellpadding=0 align=center><tr><td>Quote, originally posted by clm6741 &raquo;</td></tr><tr><td class="quote">Dan,

To be clear the powerhead most likely blew due to damage caused from the LU snapping into reverse at 76mph..... It didnt just blow up for no reason. </td></tr></table>


You mentioned water coming out of the cowling in your first post. Was it coming out of the rigging tube area in the front of the motor? If so, it may have been from the overboard water tube popping off it's fitting because of the increased water pressure from your new gearcase. If that is what happened, then your dealer may not have installed the new grommet on the back of the motor that is required when the M2 gearcase replaces a Lightning model.

When the water tube comes loose, the motor pan quickly fills with water and as the level rises, it is ingested into #6 cylinder (the lowest one) and the hydraulic lock breaks the connecting rod.

Check your rear grommet, there should be a rib connecting the exhaust outlet to the flusher port for increased strength. If not, get after your dealer if your replacement gearcase was the M2.

[clm6741]

Yes they replaced the grommet on the old 2010 powerhead when they installed the M2. Evinrude sent a kit with the gearcase and they followed it to the tee, because he showed me everything and explained it to me. You had no commenet on the air sucking into the fuel line????

[SEAHORSE]

<table width="90%" cellspacing=0 cellpadding=0 align=center><tr><td>Quote, originally posted by clm6741 &raquo;</td></tr><tr><td class="quote">You had no commenet on the air sucking into the fuel line????</td></tr></table>

You didn't read my reply where I complimented your dealer for checking the fuel system? Many don't and the customers complain about blowing powerheads and its not Evinrude's fault.