first off i was so excited about these i bought six of them. and i was so so so disapointed so first of all i was hunting dall sheep. i shoot a trykon with custom string and cable so its not slow. so i had this shot at 25 yds and hit him right above the shoulder (in the blade) and it stuck in about an inch so i get another arrow and kind of pushed the second shot a lil he was quarterin away hit the shoulder it glanzed off and went out through the brisket so im POed after this shoot a 3rd time and just shot him far back to get a pass through and was not impressedb with the hole at all. does anyone else these are junk???