I simply will not buy lithium until they are much lower in price. Also, unless they are American made, forget it. Anyone else agree?
I simply will not buy lithium until they are much lower in price. Also, unless they are American made, forget it. Anyone else agree?
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How much are they now? They have been out for over 10 years. Have the price dropped any?
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Never had a single issue with a lead acid that is properly maintained. I get deep cycle rebuilt 29 series batteries from a local battery place here for $53 each.
Last edited by old4runner; 03-19-2023 at 11:57 AM.
Best investment I have made in fishing in the last 5 years. Totally worth the $ for me.
Not for me.
The cost, weight differential and having to re-balance boat. The country that owns most of the worlds lithium mines, how they remove it from the ground and those who they often "use" to remove it, the environmental damage done in removing it, very little recycling infrastructure once the batteries are used up, and lack, on my part, unfounded or not, about their safety etc.. So, no thanks.
No one can be wrong that often so it has to be deliberate.
I wont be.buying one to much money for me spend at this time.
1. cost wise, you have to do the math. In 10 years you'd use 2-3 good AGM batteries, let's say two. That's $1000 for 2 Group 31 X2s. You can get a pretty decent starter lithium for $1000 that is guaranteed for 10 years. So, in my mind cost isn't a factor. Some guys like Walmart Batteries. There you're going to pay $100-$150 and replace every 3 years, minimum. So, maybe $450 for 9 years. Say $500 for the full 10 years. Certainly cheaper and some guys don't mind pulling batteries out and adding water, knowing they got a bargain and can sometimes get a warranty return from Walmart. Great, go for it. Doesn't suit me.
2. Doubtful they will every be manufactured in the US. Assembled yes but manufactured, never, we don't have the raw materials, cheap enough labor force, and environmental regs will never allow it.
I hear your arguments and like that you have made a decision but based on your criteria, I think the OP will never have LiFePO batteries in his boat! Hope this is taken the correct way, it's not meant to be a dig at anyone.
One post was critical of the environmental effects of mining lithium. Is lead mining any less environmentally friendly? At least it can be recycled but let's be honest neither is a "clean" process. Oh and the country that produces the most lithium is also the country with the biggest lead mining!
NoCAL
Last edited by NoCAL; 03-19-2023 at 12:29 PM.
2004TR-21X/2015 250 ProXS
2B112175
I’ve not priced them either, but what does one cost that would replace your normal 31 group lead acid???. At least ballpark price.
A really good starter battery with a warranty and a suitable charger will be around $1000
2004TR-21X/2015 250 ProXS
2B112175
I have no problem getting 5-7 years out of my regular batteries so from a cost standpoint it doesn’t make sense for me. I also get deals on regular batteries so for me that sweetens the pot. I am not doubting any companies, especially sponsors here but I will be curious down the road to see how they hold up to the 10 year warranties. For where I live, how I fish and how well regular batteries last there just isn’t a need. If I lived down south or tournament fished maybe I would. They sure aren’t cheap tho. (The “good” ones at least).
2008 Skeeter 21I. Yamaha 250 Series II.
2011 Toyota Tundra Crewmax 4x4.
I'll wait a few more years.
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Having to also buy a new charger is a consideration holding me back, for now. When my lead acid batteries for he trolling motor bite the dust I will have to make the decision.
Originally Posted by NoCAL
Is that true? Just 1 lithium starting battery that is used to start your engine and run electronics cost $1,000 with a charger. Seems ridiculously expensive to me when a really good cranking battery cost less than $250 and will last 4-6 years.
In addition to that you still need multiple Lithium deep cycle batteries. How much does this hole package cost for a 24v or 36v trolling motor?
Gambler 2200/250 Pro XS
I wouldn't buy them or run them until they are more reliable........
Yep, until they are pretty much the same cost as lead batteries I see no reason to buy them if I need new batteries. Lead batteries have plenty of capacity for the way I use them. My boat is not overloaded and I have enough strength to swap them out myself if needed.
I not had an issue with conventional batteries. I'm not gonna run out andcswap out perfectly good battery. In the future when it's time to replace what I have I might consider them. I am not gonna pay 3 times the cost of conventional batteries to do so though.
I am pretty sure for 4 batteries and charger you are at 3k no problem. Hopefully you don't have to change anything else like a prop.
2008 Skeeter 21I. Yamaha 250 Series II.
2011 Toyota Tundra Crewmax 4x4.
Thank you. That is 4 times more than conventional batteries. The price certainly needs to come down for me to be in the market for lithium.
Gambler 2200/250 Pro XS
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