Opinion of new Champion T-Shirt

[Duane Hanshew]

Being a former Champion owner and in the T-Shirt business I am considering offering a new T-Shirt and I wanted to run it by some Champion guys before I produce it. Let me know what you think.

[Lea]

Old school logo...very neat!!!!!

I know PE owns the newer logo, but not sure about that one.

[foxman623]

I like it. Love the old school logo. Thats what I did for my hat.

[bassin butch]

<table width="90%" cellspacing=0 cellpadding=0 align=center><tr><td>Quote, originally posted by Lea &raquo;</td></tr><tr><td class="quote"> I know PE owns the newer logo, but not sure about that one. </td></tr></table>

PE owns Champion boats name not the word Champion.

I like the shirt!

Would like to see one that says: Champion saving your ass from rough water for 35 years

[Lpolk]

I would buy one(neet).

[DustinC]

I'd rock it.

[bassfinder1]

Looks good

[Lea]

<table width="90%" cellspacing=0 cellpadding=0 align=center><tr><td>Quote, originally posted by bassin butch &raquo;</td></tr><tr><td class="quote">

PE owns Champion boats name not the word Champion.


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That is true, however, the old logo is not just the word Champion. It was the logo for many years, and could well be copy written.

I just think we need to see what PE actually does own. I love that T and do not want to see anyone get into trouble. PE is deciding on what to do about the TOC use of the logo as it is.

[Steve 187]

Looks boring to me................sorry.

[bassin butch]

<table width="90%" cellspacing=0 cellpadding=0 align=center><tr><td>Quote, originally posted by Lea &raquo;</td></tr><tr><td class="quote">

That is true, however, the old logo is not just the word Champion. It was the logo for many years, and could well be copy written.

I just think we need to see what PE actually does own. I love that T and do not want to see anyone get into trouble. PE is deciding on what to do about the TOC use of the logo as it is.</td></tr></table>

If the PE takes that tactic: They can stick it!

I will have a Plat eqty bite me shirt made up!

[Lea]

our boats will live until PE gets pissed at our attitude....

IMHO, I am hoping they will OK the use of both logos. Just gotta wait and see...

[BILLY]

[suck my wake]

Nice but you might want to consider that "We will never forget " is the motto for the heroes who perished in 9-11.

[FJSPROFISH]

Thats sick.... Love it!

[slinkeey]

What is wrong with copyrighting a design? The way the brand is presented.

Same goes for Harley and they are crazy about people using their brand name.. Do you blame them?

Would you like Bayliner come around and put a bass boat top cap on one of their hulls and use the champion name? After all, PE is evil for copyrighting the brand.

[bassin butch]

I shall not reply so I dont get the BBC boot job.

[Lea]

<table width="90%" cellspacing=0 cellpadding=0 align=center><tr><td>Quote, originally posted by slinkeey &raquo;</td></tr><tr><td class="quote">What is wrong with copyrighting a design? The way the brand is presented.

Same goes for Harley and they are crazy about people using their brand name.. Do you blame them?

Would you like Bayliner come around and put a bass boat top cap on one of their hulls and use the champion name? After all, PE is evil for copyrighting the brand.

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Not sure what you are upset about. The copyright prevents the scenario you are "hypothesizing" with Bayliner. Most companies copyright their logos. PE did not copyright it. But they bought the brand and all copyrights involved, as far as I know. They own the newer logo because they bought the company. I do not know if the old logo was included.

[Royjulius]

I'd buy 2!! It's even gray. I love my gray t-shirts.

[slinkeey]

<table width="90%" cellspacing=0 cellpadding=0 align=center><tr><td>Quote, originally posted by Lea &raquo;</td></tr><tr><td class="quote">
Not sure what you are upset about. The copyright prevents the scenario you are "hypothesizing" with Bayliner. Most companies copyright their logos. PE did not copyright it. But they bought the brand and all copyrights involved, as far as I know....they own the newer logo because they bought the company. I do not know if the old logo was included.</td></tr></table>

I am not upset about anything. I am just saying that I don't blame PE for having a copyright on a logo.

Almost everyone does it. Look at Harley, Look at Chevy (GM), Look at Ford.. You just cannot go making profits off of their branding at your own will.

Go ahead and reply Butch.. You are pretty level headed good guy so I wont take anything to heart.

[bassin butch]

OK: The graphic from back in the MTN Days would have long out lived any protection.

The Word Champion is not owned by anyone.

Several Ebay graphics are up for sale and well as watches made in China each and every week.

If the PE has a bone to pick: Go fight with Ebay! The last group to rock the boat with is current Champion owners.

I will buy this mans product and thats the way it is.

Complete "big brother control" will do nothing than drive me away. Net result: away from recommending any Flippn built product.