this engine is a night mare. Bought the boat new in March 07. I have taken the boat to the water 5 times and 4 times it would not crank. Today was the last straw. This cold natured, flooding, headache of a SOB motor has caused me nothing but time and trouble. All my dealer can say is just sell the boat and get a HPDI. Well, f that. I think I bought a lemon motor. What should I do?
It should not be like that. My bet is it is something small like an electric choke that does not work or you are not pushing in the choke while cranking. You must push it in and keep it pushed in until the motor starts to choke out and then let off. You may need to bump it in a couple more times after that to keep it going good. Are you pumping the bulb til it's firm?
Those are great motors... I owned one for 4 years and never had an issue with cold starts in Michigan. I fish from ice off until ice on..
Sounds like you have an idot for a dealer...
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Have you tried the manual choke on the motor its self? Mines the same way. I found that if i pump the bulb hard, pull the manual choke and let it sit there with motor trimmed down while undoing straps, preping boat, etc. Then put it in the water and it starts better than if i would just hurry up and drop it off. Or sometimes when it sits for a few weeks, i'll start it in the yard for a few minutes the day before or the day of, i don't have any problems.
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Had same problem, try this...
Pump bulb good until firm. Make sure motor is level.
Push in key to engage choke but don't try to start, just listen for the click. If the choke is working right, there should be a clear audible click as the choke engages. If there is a good click push in again, listen for click, and if there is a click , hold key in firmly for a second and then while still pushing in frimly turn key to start. Should crank and turn over, if starts to stall, push in key (choke) for a second, or try bumping it a few times until running better.
If doesn't turn over, go to dealer.
If when you push in key there is no audible click, release key, bump it in good a few times, and then try again. If no audible click, bump a few more times, hold in key firmly and listen again. If no click, pull manual choke and give it a try that way.
Some of those vmax's don't seem to want to choke good, so if you aren't hearing a good click, the choke isn't working corretly.
I don't want to insult you. But, I have to ask.
Are you pushing the button on the shifter/throttle in (which releases the gear shifting mechanism, and allows you to throttle-up in neutral), and giving the engine a little throttle before you choke it, and spin it over? It's the black rubber covered button that in the center (axis) of the shifter handle.
I sold a boat to a guy one time. I showed him exactly how everything worked, and proper starting proceedure. He was not paying attention, or forgot I guess. He later contacted me, and told me how much trouble he was having getting it started the 1st time on every outing. He was completely draining the cranking battery before getting it started almost every time he took the boat out.
He did NOT remember how to give the engine some throttle while it was in neutral. After I showed him again, he has had zero trouble getting the engine cranked.
That's an 04' V-150, carbed engine, and it has sure been a good one. I sure hope you get your problem resolved.
Hey robert, i didn't realize that you could do that with these motors. I figured it was with the old motors. How would you reduce the throttle? Just pull it back to netural?
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Yes, You just pull the handle back to the neutral position to get the throttle back to idle position. When the handle gets back to the neutral position, the shifting mechanism will also re-engage automatically. That's how it all worked on my 2004 boat anyway.
This just allows you to rev the engine up, while still keeping the lower unit in neutral. It makes "cold-starting" the engine much easier. Of coarse if you have a hot-foot, there is no reason to ever do that, because the throttle cables are no longer hooked up to the shifter handle unit (remote).
Well, that don't help me then cause i have a hotfoot.
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That's a good point. If the motor doesn't run after the first time it turns over, I push in the button on throttle and move lever forward a little to give it a little extra gas.
In the colder months I always open the throttle just till I feel resistance then crank it over with the choke
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I have an 05 150 carbed VMax and it took me a while to get used to it. The second time I took it out it wouldn't start and i took it back complaining. The mechanic showed me how to start it.
To this day.....I start it every weekend regardless of going fishing. I start it the night before each trip.
My start routine:
1 - Trim motor vertical (as much as possible)
2 - Squeeze Bulb till firm
3 - Pull manual choke
4 - Turn Key
Motor normally starts on second or third try. It has flooded twice (real bad) in the 3 years I have owned it. That sets me back is it normally takes 30 minutes to get it started.
However, I have helped out two guys with this routine on the same motor and they were impressed. The other day a dude was grinding on his and i told him to trim down, squeeze, and use manual choke....the mutha fired right up!
I think the trick (for mine) is to not squeeze bulb until motor is trimmed down....i.e...not while in line at the ramp waiting to back down the ramp.
Jason
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I'd be willing to bet that the choke solenoid needs to be adjusted. It's a problem that a number of us have had with our carb'd Yamahas that's been pretty well documented on this board. Pull out the manual choke on the front of the motor and then try to start it. If it fires right up, and I suspect that it will, you'll have your answer.
Here's a couple of links if you're one of those "do-it-yourself" guys. It's real quick fix and I promise it'll make you change your mind about your Yamaha!
http://www.bbcboards.net/zerothread?id=72683
http://www.bbcboards.net/zerothread?id=48298
And I agree with 21XDC - your dealer's a friggin' idiot!!
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