223 reloading questions

[Lockjaw]

I need a little help. I am going to be reloading some 223 ammo. I have winchester 748 powder and am using a 55 grain remington pointed hp bullet. CCI 450 primer, the brass is FC.

Can anyone tell me the load data on it? I have found some information on the web, but.... well it doesn't list what the max charge is, and I need to know that, so I don't exceed it. Some of the loads listed exceeded the max charge according to the notes.

This one lists the charge at 26.3 grains, netting about 3150 FPS, which is where I think I need to be.

Gun is a Keltec SU16C if that helps. It uses an AR15 magazine.

[TobyG.Mo]

The max on that is 27 grains, you'll get different max loads from all books you look at, I would start at your load and work up from there watching the primer/ case head for pressure signs. I would watch close because 748 is a little slow burning for a 223, I would try varget, h335 or something along that line, 748 is gonna give you low load density and probably you won't be able to get as good as speed and accuracy as a faster powder, unless I had 50 pounds of it laying around I would switch powders.

[abe1]

why that powder there are better choices go there. Try Ramshot Tac it is made just for 223 cal and it works like a dream

[Lockjaw]

I bougt it for a song, and I was planning on loading alot of ammo. I have 2000 cases, and 2000 primers. 3 pounds of powder.

So what is one of the better loads then? I would like it to zip along pretty good. Assuming nothing changes but the powder.

[TobyG.Mo]

25.3 h335/3200 24.0 h322/3210 25.0 re 10x/ 3390 watch for flat primers an ejector marks, I usually pick a primer and stick with it until I get a load built and then experiment a little to see the changes.

[abe1]

Lockjaw go to a reloading shop and buy a book. You would be a fool to take any ones word on a load. It could be wrong and you could get hurt or even killed.Never trust anyone else to give you a load. Buy the book read it and do what it says.You could go to the Winchester web site and get the data for free as well. good luck

[TobyG.Mo]

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by abe1 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Lockjaw go to a reloading shop and buy a book. You would be a fool to take any ones word on a load. It could be wrong and you could get hurt or even killed.Never trust anyone else to give you a load. Buy the book read it and do what it says.You could go to the Winchester web site and get the data for free as well. good luck</TD></TR></TABLE>good advice

[Lockjaw]

I need to look some more, I was on Winchesters site today, but having difficulty finding load data.

The idea behind what I was doing was to give myself the ability to load alot of ammo fairly quickly, it didn't have to be supremely accurate, especially consindering my gun has iron sights.

Its one of those what if things. I will see if I can dig up a book, or find some data. The website I found has admin comments on loads over manufacturer spec.

[TobyG.Mo]

get a few loading manuals and always pay attention to the max loads and work up to them, I don't know how much experiance you have at reloading but if your a beginner you need to learn from someone if you can, alot of reading will help to, as far as not getting loads from others, if you can't tell by looking that a load that someone gives you is dangerous you probably don't have any buisness reloading on your own anyway. I have been doing it for a long time, I learned from a competion br shooter, I make alot of my loads up just by case capacity and it always works for me.

[Lockjaw]

I loaded alot for my 270 in college, and tested things. What I found worked for me in my gun was what an "expert" said shouldn't.

I loved to find 30-06 brass at the range, and resize it, and I used a Hogden powder that wasn't necessarily the best choice for my caliber, but it was accurate in my gun.

In this case, I am moving up to progressive loading, so I just wanted a good all around load.

[Lockjaw]

I found that data on winchesters sight, so I emailed all the stuff to my email account on every gun I own.

My pet 270 load was pretty warm. My rifle loved it. 4 shots you could cover with a nickel out of a 700 BDL. With me shooting no less.

And man did it get attention when I shot it at the range.

Of course, nothing tops my ported 44 Mag lever carbine. Its brutal.

[MarkNY]

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by abe1 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Lockjaw go to a reloading shop and buy a book. You would be a fool to take any ones word on a load. It could be wrong and you could get hurt or even killed.Never trust anyone else to give you a load. Buy the book read it and do what it says.You could go to the Winchester web site and get the data for free as well. good luck</TD></TR></TABLE>

Absolutly Never take advice on charges or give advice. Use a manual for your specific powder for loading details.

[MarkNY]

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by TobyG.Mo &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">get a few loading manuals and always pay attention to the max loads and work up to them, I don't know how much experiance you have at reloading but if your a beginner you need to learn from someone if you can, alot of reading will help to, as far as not getting loads from others, if you can't tell by looking that a load that someone gives you is dangerous you probably don't have any buisness reloading on your own anyway. I have been doing it for a long time, I learned from a competion br shooter, I make alot of my loads up just by case capacity and it always works for me.</TD></TR></TABLE>

case capacity with a slow burning powder like IMR4350 you may get away with a compressed load in some guns. Using that same case and accidently using 4064 (much faster burn rate) could cause a fatality. Always use a manual.

Not all powders are equal, they have different heat ranges.

[TobyG.Mo]

thats why you only use powders that have the correct burn rate for the caliber, the manual will list alot of powders for a caliber but that does'nt make all the powders the best choice. If you know what your looking at you will pick your powder based on load density and that will tell you if the powder has the right burn rate. If you have the right powder all you have to do is fill the case to the shoulder and start there, after that watch for pressure signs. you are right, if you use the wrong amount of the wrong powder it can be dangerous, 95.8 grains of 4064 in my 300 rum would be a bomb but that same amount of re-22 is great. If A person can't even pick the correct powder for a load they should probably get someone to teach them how to reload.

[Lockjaw]

Well I got a good listing from Winchester/hogden, so I should be good. I have loaded a good bit before, just not progressively. I may try some different powders after I load some with this and see how they do.

Like I said, this doesn't have to be the most accurate round, what I wanted was the ability to load a bunch of ammo in a hurry, without breaking the bank. Some of those powders are expensive, which is fine, but not for what I want to do.

2000 rounds with a powder that is 30 bucks a pound would get exensive.

[BIGDOG1956]

Please be carfull reloading with 748, on a hot day it can presure spike creating a to hot load with danderous presure. If the load was
develope in the fall dont use it in the summer. Fyi

[Lockjaw]

Ok thanks. I am not going to load it full tilt anyway. I just want to be about a grain to 1/2 grain below max, depending on how things look. I know what to be looking for to tell me if its to hot.

My pet load for my 270 uses a powder not normally preferred for a 270, but it works well. Better then H4895.