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    polish and waxes

    Buffing out the boat,polishing and then wax.Using Meguiar's compound and polish and Turtle Wax Ice.Black Bullet with lots of oxidation. The polish really makes the black pop, I was wondering can you apply polish over top of wax and it still be effective or do you have to strip the wax everytime you polish. Also the Ice claims to be a wax but they call it a polish on the box, can it be both?Finally is BassBoatSaver a polish or a wax, and does it leave any white residue to deal with.

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    Re: polish and waxes (sowbelly)

    <TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by sowbelly &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Buffing out the boat,polishing and then wax.Using Meguiar's compound and polish and Turtle Wax Ice.Black Bullet with lots of oxidation. The polish really makes the black pop, I was wondering can you apply polish over top of wax and it still be effective or do you have to strip the wax everytime you polish. Also the Ice claims to be a wax but they call it a polish on the box, can it be both?Finally is BassBoatSaver a polish or a wax, and does it leave any white residue to deal with.</TD></TR></TABLE>

    Compound=heavy abrasive
    Polish = fine abrasive
    Wax = pore-filler/sealer and protector.

    90 percent of your shine comes from a good polish job; if you do a good polish job, people should be asking you what you wax your boat with before you even put on the wax...

    So yes, if you polish over wax, you will remove the wax. Some of those fancy car waxes are acrylic based and last longer...

    It really makes no sense to polish over wax...if you need to redo a polish job, wash the boat with dawn dish detergent (it will remove the wax), polish with a good buffer, then wax.

    BBS is a cleaner and spray type wax. it fills microscopic pits from wax that may get worn away while you use your boat.

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    Re: polish and waxes (ppcpilot)

    In order to get a good polish do you use a Variable speed buffer? do you use it to put in on or take it off or both?

    Can you put compound on and take it off with a buffer too?

    I am debating or weather I should try the Compond, Polish, & Wax route or if i should wet sand the whole thing. I am just scared to remove the Factory stickers. It's an old 88 Skeeter SF150SX and I don't think I could find those stickers to match.

    Thanks for the INFO
    Matt

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    Re: polish and waxes (bassfish 24-7)

    Tape the stickers..you need a high speed rotary buffer to do this, not a orbital car detailer...go to your local harbor freight, or go online and get one of their rotary buffers...

    to find out if you need to sand, buy some rubbing compound (maguires) or 3m, put a circle of it on the pad, spread it out on the boat, then turn the machine on. Go with it in a small 2ft area until the compound is almost non-existant..it will break down and get dusty (it's like ultra fine sandpaper). If you use the 3m stuff (fiberglass restorer and wax) it will wax as well. Compound is not like a wax that you rub a coat on, then rub a coat off....you smear it on, turn on the buffer, and go until there is none left. You may have a very slight residue to wipe off, but it just come off with a towel. If you use straight compound and no wax, you may have to use a finesse-it (3m) product to get any fine marks out from the compounding.

    Anyway, try that first, the buffer is like 30 dollars, and a bottle of the 3m restorer and wax is 8 bucks or so...if you get the results you want in a small area that you test with just the compound, then no need to sand..otherwise get sanding! Oh, and get a pad for your buffer made to compound. The best is to get a velcro base, and a velcro padded compounding pad, so it stays in one place. I think you can buy them in all -in one configurations, as well. IM me if you have any questions.

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    Re: polish and waxes (ppcpilot)

    HI.. just wanted to tell everyone that i have been in the detail business for over 35 years!If anyone needs there boats done i'm located in Westhampton Beach, NY on long island..I also want to tell you tell leave the wet sanding and compounding to a pro...
    The best wax is Collinites Insulator Boat Wax...it has oils in that will make the hull shine and last..they also have Insulator Wax for cars &trucks too!!!this stuff is the best there is..TRUST ME!!!!..
    The worst part of a boat is the upper gunnel area..thats exposed to the uv of the sun..once its dead its dead..theres no wet sanding ,compounding etc is going to bring this back to life.iIf you do,.... its only temporory!!!
    Like I said try the collinites products..I've used them for over 35 years .

    ROLAND

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    Re: polish and waxes (ROLAND1228)

    <TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ROLAND1228 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I also want to tell you tell leave the wet sanding and compounding to a pro...


    ROLAND</TD></TR></TABLE>

    we have alot of pros on the site have had many do it thereself with great success

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    Re: polish and waxes (ROLAND1228)

    How about publishing where the ordinary guy can get this wax if he wanted some.

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    Re: polish and waxes (Garfish)

    <TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Garfish &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">How about publishing where the ordinary guy can get this wax if he wanted some.</TD></TR></TABLE>


    Here ya go gar

    http://www.autogeek.net/collin...1mp6Q

    http://www.goestores.com/catal...94511

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    Re: polish and waxes (BASSCAT7)

    Very good info!!

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    Re: polish and waxes (ROLAND1228)

    <TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ROLAND1228 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">leave the wet sanding and compounding to a pro...
    theres no wet sanding ,compounding etc is going to bring this back to life.iIf you do,.... its only temporory!!!


    ROLAND</TD></TR></TABLE>

    So I should pay a "Pro" like yourself, to get the same "temporory" fix that I can get at home with NO cost other than the products? I don't understand your logic behind that statement.

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