I have had a rough road with twists and birds nest using Fluorocarbon. Is there that big of a difference between a Co-Polymer and Fluorocarbon?
I have had a rough road with twists and birds nest using Fluorocarbon. Is there that big of a difference between a Co-Polymer and Fluorocarbon?
What kind of Fluorocarbon are you using?? Have you tried Seagar InvisX? Personally I have had no luck with the co-polymer lines.
I have only used Seagur Fluorocarbon with little success. I used Gamma Co-Polymer last year an it was much more manageable, easy to use. I just don't know the affect it has on catching fish (Fluorocarbon invisible under water). I wish I could find a Fluorocarbon that is easy to use.
Is there a huge difference between the two lines (catching fish)?
I've used alot of Seagar 14lb. Carbon Pro Fluoro on my Carolina Rigs and jigs rods. It never breaks, less stretch, is more sensitive to me as well. I still use reg. mono. sometimes and still catch fish. Everybody has their opinion. The only time I have seen it make a big difference is in extreme clear water by me being able to use smaller diameter line and having more confidence of it not breaking lol...
I've started using the InvisX of late. It is more limp. Very satisfied.
Mark
I use Gamma co-polymer for all my steelhead fishing in the local rivers. But only as a main line. Their 6 lb is stronger than any 8-10 lb line I've tried from any other manufacturer. I use a floro leader in clear water and run straight to the hook in dingy/murky water.
For years I used nothing but Gamma co for all my bass fishing. Then I discovered braid!! LOL!! But in my opinion the Gamma is a great line with great strength and good abrasion resistance. I normally don't have any issues with line twist... unless I leave the line on the reel too long... then it will pick up memory just like a mono line will.
I have also noticed that after a period of time using this line it tends to turn a little murky/white compared to when it's new. That's a good indication that the line needs to be changed.
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New record!! Caught several bass on December 31st. In Michigan! From my boat!
I had the opposite problem, InvisX was much more manageable than the Co-Polymers I had tried on spinning gear anyway. It feels more like mono to me. Now I do think the carbon pro would be more problematic on spinning gear.
I use P Line's Floroclear Co-Poly on my crankbait reels, my spinner bait reels, and right now it's on both of my light/medium spinning reels as they are still spooled for Winter temps (line stiffness reasons). I use the spinning rods for light worming, shaky head fishing, or drop shotting. I'm thinking they will get 100% flouro on them pretty soon in 8# test.
The P Line Co-Poly product is flourocarbon coated and is pretty darn hard to see in the water even on the brightest of days. It's knot strength is superior and it takes a beating. I had a 2.5 pound spot (no giant for sure but plenty pissed off and pulling hard) wrapped around a steel piling by a dock yesterday and was sure that fish was going to break that 8# line but it held and I got him in the boat. It's good stuff![]()
I am using the BPS 100% pure Flouro on my jig and worm rods in heavier line as they are being fished down in some nasty brush piles etc. It's REALLY stiff but teh knot strenght is good so I may get more of it or I might try P Line's 100% flouro next on my spinning rods since the co poly is so good. Not sure on that yet but both have good reviews.
The biggest differences I have seen and these are in no particular order are; 1) invisibility - favors 100% flouro for sure, 2) limpness - favors co poly meanig flouro will "fluff" up on you and can cause you some headaches at times on spinning gear particularly, 3) knot strength - favors co-poly without question, and 4) feel - favors 100% flouro better without question.
All that boils down to this; flourocarbon is an application specific line. It serves little to no use on cranks, spinner baits, top water (terrible for this due to sink rate), etc so make sure if you use it you use it for the right technique and match the line to the reel; the lighter the line the less stiff just like mono which makes it easier for spinning gear to handle.
For me flouro is better for bottom / finesse fishing only. I like the co poly's for price, stretch, visibility, durability for all of my other fishing needs and am real happy with the P Line brand so far.
Chuck D
(Currently shopping for my next bass boat)
Good information! My brother and I were having horrible luck with PLine 100% flouro(on spinning only) I was using 8# and he was using 12# It's springs off those reels even hand closing the bail and pulling the line into the rollers each cast. I had to palm the spool to keep the line from shooting off. Will try the Halo on the spinning gear. Love the PLine flouro on the baitcasters though.
The PLine Flouroclear ( as mentioned above), and their CX premium line(NOT CXX X-Strong!) are both good lines that work on spinning gear as long as you don't go over 12#... Both are flourocarbon coated copolymers, the flouroclear has no tint, and they make a clear flourescent in the CX that has a slight pink tint that is easier to see above water...
Jason Bailey -- Charlotte, NC
2002 Triton TR20 225 EFI Mercury
I agree with Jason's post above. I had the chance to talk with some pros from the elite series at the Bass Master Classic this year and talked line with them; particularly 100% flouro on spinning reels. Thier take is it's great if you use light line and also don't fill the spool as much which can help it keep from "fluffing" or unwinding itself which it will do.
They are all using 100% flouro on their drop shot rigs for visibility and feel purposes. That's a specific application though as I mentioned in the earlier post and with the weight on there as a vertical presentation, they are not casting as much as just free dropping it into the strike zone. It can work for you for casting such as a shaky head (my preference) and the only way I've seen it work is to underspool the reel some which can cut down on your casting distance some. Use the lightest stuff you can get away with on spinning tackle. That's the trick![]()
Chuck D
(Currently shopping for my next bass boat)