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    I never thought I would say this about a tongue...

    I never thought I would say this about a tongue jack but that one is really good and almost a pleasure to use.
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    Playground concrete!!

    Playground concrete!!
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    Oh we agree but there are a lot of batteries...

    Oh we agree but there are a lot of batteries still out there that only take 80% (and the newer batteries are making the newer EV's even more expensive). I think the discharged state would be the...
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    https://www.notateslaapp.com/tesla-reference/656/h...

    https://www.notateslaapp.com/tesla-reference/656/how-long-do-tesla-batteries-last-their-rated-lifetime-mileage

    This is pretty typical of any battery not just EV batteries. We have yet to find a...
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    The articles are fine but the one that he says...

    The articles are fine but the one that he says that in is 4 years old and he has not said that recently. I watch Musk almost daily on youtube (he is on live most days) as he is truly on of the...
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    And yours to me.

    And yours to me.
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    LMAO I was thinking the same thing. Look in any...

    LMAO I was thinking the same thing. Look in any state forum in here and there is always a discussion about hotels with charging available and how many do not accommodate it).
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    I disagree with that representation. I work in...

    I disagree with that representation. I work in the field of supporting smart grids so I am very conscious about it and like I said I do not agree with that.
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    LMAO Very first one is a ref to something musk...

    LMAO
    Very first one is a ref to something musk said years ago and has not panned out.
    2nd article is 4 years old and what the first article you ref'd is based on..... yawn.
    3rd article talks...
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    I did not make the claim. Don\t try to turn it...

    I did not make the claim. Don\t try to turn it around. I want 73 articles from Musk saying they go 300K. That is what you said.
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    Musk saying this? Please do. I would like 73...

    Musk saying this? Please do. I would like 73 articles :wink:

    Range "not that big of a deal"... To you it is not a big deal but you cannot apply that across the board to make the statement look...
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    the other thing about EV's in the mgt. To get...

    the other thing about EV's in the mgt. To get the most out of your batteries you have to make sure and not storte them to low or to high or it will shorten the life of the unit. Can you imagine if...
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    Tesla does not say that. That is some blog...

    Tesla does not say that. That is some blog article with zero science (seems like a little misrepresentation going on). Tesla's warranties as I quoted are in the article. Are you okay with used...
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    Yessir!!

    Yessir!!
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    Really which ones? I can't find a single...

    Really which ones? I can't find a single manufacturer that will say 300K. I cannot find any outside sources that say an EV battery will last 300K. For this to hold water most would like to see...
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    ^:yesnod: Most dbl A and triple A affiliates...

    ^:yesnod:

    Most dbl A and triple A affiliates are broadcast on AM for the local communities. The local short track here is also.

    Ford is basically pulling support for the budget challenged...
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    The vehicle itself may last that long but will...

    The vehicle itself may last that long but will the orig batteries last 300K? From what I read most @ 100K are below 70% capacity with is the recommended time to get new batteries.
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    My biggest issues with EV is taking a vaca/trip...

    My biggest issues with EV is taking a vaca/trip in them. Finding charging while on vacation seems like it would be a nightmare and to many things would have to be planned around charging. I am...
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    I really don't get bent out of shape about it. ...

    I really don't get bent out of shape about it. Why? Not gonna matter in my life even for even a sec and if some verbiage at the bottom of the screen makes a few feel better then good (because it...
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    Nice! Your fish catching expectations just...

    Nice! Your fish catching expectations just increased!!!! :yesnod:
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    Is that David Walker?

    Is that David Walker in a Ranger passing Edwin (that is how the video description reads on youtube)? The "paint scheme" does not look like the big Progressive down the side. Then of course there...
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    < Jealous!!!! Very nice!

    < Jealous!!!!

    Very nice!
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    :thumb up2:I think she is outstanding! She has...

    :thumb up2:I think she is outstanding! She has fire for the kids and the game.

    To the haters... Does she have things she might do diff, sure, like all of us so lets not be on our high horses to...
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    If coffee ruined my shirt I would no shirts.

    If coffee ruined my shirt I would no shirts.
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    I usually hate folks that call out refs but this...

    I usually hate folks that call out refs but this was a really poor called game in both directions. Some looked more outrageous than others which might skew perception but it was horrible from the...
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