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I want to buy an 04' Skeeter ZX2200 Bay -- I was informed on another site that the 04' Skeeters used wood in their construction. Is this true? If so, was it used on the deck construction? How about the transom?
Thanks in advance for any information.
Jeff
I don't know about bay boats, but skeeter stopped putting wood in the bassboats sometime in the late '90's. I seriously doubt that boat would have any wood in it but I am not 100%. http://www.bassboatcentral.com/smileys/wink.gif
For what it's worth, I searched this site on the Skeeter wood topic first. Several posts, nothing that would indicate clearly when and if Skeeter quit using wood or if they do use it, exactly where. I don't want to end up with wood in the transom and that isn't clear one way or the other from reading the posts. i've called the plant twice and left a message with a person who is supposed to know. He did not return my calls and now they are shut down until after New Year.
Same here, not familiar with bay boats but can tell ya that since 96 skeeter went to all composite hulls, at least in the bass boats. The only wood you may find in skeeters are for reinforcement of the deck. These may consist of small blocks of wood encased in glass to support the deck area that may be suspect to cracking if not supported.
mine has wood for deck support but like you said it's all covered in resin. There are some things that wood is better for and as long as it's glassed it's all good!
Jeff welcome to BBC
Thanks for the information and the welcome!
Merry Christmas!!
i get wood every time im in my skeeter http://www.bassboatcentral.com/boardstuff2/beers.gif
The carpeted panels in the rod lockers of my 2008 are plywood.
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SAME HERE
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I thought I was the only one http://www.bassboatcentral.com/boardstuff2/beers.gif
mine has wood in the deck, rod lockers, and bilge area behind the oil tanks.
ChrisH -- is your boat an 2009 model? When you say wood in the deck do you mean the deck floor has a layer of wood or wood supports here and there? Thanks
Structural Wood has been gone since the late 1990's. You may find it encapsulated in non structural areas in some boats but they are all wood free now and have been for many years.
Doug -- that really helps. I have a shot a very nice Skeeter Bay boat but it's an 04'. Last think I want is a boat that can rot. Thanks
Mine is a 92, all wood, no problems. And it doesn't get more humid than here! http://www.bassboatcentral.com/smileys/wink.gif
I've seen under my deck and stringers and all, it's perfect
<table width="90%" cellspacing=0 cellpadding=0 align=center><tr><td>Quote, originally posted by jfaisten »</td></tr><tr><td class="quote">ChrisH -- is your boat an 2009 model? When you say wood in the deck do you mean the deck floor has a layer of wood or wood supports here and there? Thanks</td></tr></table>mine is an 04. it has wood supports under the front deck but the deck itself is composite.
There is wood in a 2004 Skeeter ZX250 stringer.
There is wood in a 2005 Skeeter ZX250 stringer.
This is not a guess. I didn't read it in a brochure.
It's a hands on, seen it, replaced some of it...fact.
And I consider a stringer to have somewhat of structural purpose......
SkeeterDD22 -- this is pretty important to me. Presumably the stringer is wood with a resign coating -- is that about right? Is the wood the structual aspect of the stringer or is composite material the largest part? Thanks.
We put a trolling motor recess in a 2007 model and it had wood for sure. I think it was an SX model. Not sure on the bay boats though, sorry.
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I've seen several decks (cut). None of those have been wood. Those are what they call composite. Basically, foam with fiberglass on each side. (like a styrofoam board, encased in fiberglass).
On the front deck though, there are what I'd call "joists" running side to side for support. (Cutting a hole for a TM pan weakens the deck area).
In the grand scheme of things, It's probably not enough to hurt anything though
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The ones I've seen from the late 90's and newer. They don't have a "stringer" in the typical fashion.
Which is a 1 by, on each side, layed on it's edge, running front to rear, encased in glass.
They have a "box" running front to rear on each side. The sides of the box are just glass, about 1/8" thick. The tops of the boxes are 1by wood. The insides of the boxes are then filled with floatation foam for support.
(think of a 15ft long, 6" diameter, cardboard shipping tube.....filled with expanding foam).
A claim of ALL composite construction, probably isn't....no matter which brand is making that claim.
An ALL composite construction does have its problems as well.
MY 2004 ZX250 has a plywood bilge area FLOOR, instead of composite. I did that because a screw will not grab foam/composite. It will grab and hold plywood.
Think of all the heavy stuff that is secured to the bilge floor with screws. A really rough ride will yank those screws out and you'll have 60lb batteries landing on fittings, hoses, pumps,etc. (this is fairly common with composite floors).
Also, water can and will penetrate anywhere there is a hole. (lose screws, missing screws).
My favorite was a 96 VIP Stealth bass boat.
I was always under the impression that VIP made a quality boat.
During construction, the top cap was formed, flipped upside down.
They then layed a buncha scrap pieces of lumber. One inch squares, two, three, four inch squares. (but not square, just scraps).
1/2" thick to 3/4" thick.
They just layed it around on the underside of the front deck, layed a sheet of cloth over it, and sprayed it with resin. It was the gawdawfullest mess I'd ever seen, and, that's how VIP built this boat. http://www.bassboatcentral.com/smileys/Laugh.gif
SkeeterDD22-- thanks for taking the time to give me your view. I should be able to talk to the Factory after the new year. Unless they tell me there is wood (layers) in the transom and deck, I will go forward with the deal. Thanks again and Merry Christmas.
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I don't know what's in the transom, but, I sure doubt have any trouble out of a mid 90' or newer Skeeter transom.
There is none in the deck either. That I've seen anyway.
1st thing, if you get one. Take everything out of the bilge area. Clean it, sand it, clean it.
Start putting stuff back in and use silicone to stick stuff down with.
Example: silicone under the battery trays, and then silicone the screws. They won't beat themselves lose, and water won't seep into the flooring down beside the screw holes. (not near so bad anyway).
I'd do that with any boat. It's especially important on composite floor boats though.
<table width="90%" cellspacing=0 cellpadding=0 align=center><tr><td>Quote, originally posted by jfaisten »</td></tr><tr><td class="quote"> Unless they tell me there is wood (layers) in the transom and deck, I will go forward with the deal. Thanks again and Merry Christmas.</td></tr></table>
Now I have had only ONE bass boat and I am not in the boat industry, but I have been reading and posting on the BBC for 8,9, or so years. WAY to many people get HUNG UP on the "OMG DOES THIS BOAT HAVE WOOD IN IT"!!!! From what I have READ, MANY, MANY TIMES from people that are in the boatand boat building industry is that most of the laminate/composite materials will delaminate/self distruct the same as wood if it gets wet inside.
The main concern with any is HOW WELL things were kept sealed.
Unless you buy a BRAND NEW BOAT and disasseble every screw or object that could let water get into the core structure and reseal it youself you could never know what ,why or when something could go bad, regardles if it was wood or composite.
I rebuilt the WOOD transom in my 89 Skeeter 175SFDF. I can pretty much determine that most of the rot started from some NOT SO GOOD manufacturing processes.
Just wanted to say that the COMPOSITE can ROT/DELAMINATE also so don't get hung up on it.
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I rebuilt the WOOD transom in my 89 Skeeter 175SFDF. I can pretty much determine that most of the rot started from some NOT SO GOOD manufacturing processes.
Just wanted to say that the COMPOSITE can ROT/DELAMINATE also so don't get hung up on it.
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+1 http://xs-s.com/zf/images/smile/emthup.gif
<table width="90%" cellspacing=0 cellpadding=0 align=center><tr><td>Quote, originally posted by tnsnow »</td></tr><tr><td class="quote">We put a trolling motor recess in a 2007 model and it had wood for sure. I think it was an SX model. Not sure on the bay boats though, sorry.</td></tr></table>
sounds about right to me..got one of them models myself
Heard from the Skeeter factory today, he wrote, "we did not use wood in the 2004 220 bay".
I have an 04' SX190. I recently installed a recessed tray in the front deck so I got a good look at the construction under the deck. There are some pressure treated wooden supports that are not covered in resin. I had to cut through one of the 2X4 supports and remove it. With that being said, the wood supports still looked new with no rot whatsoever.