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I got bad news bout my 2.6 hammer today. 4 cracked pistons. With just a little more investment I can upgrade to a staged Hydortec 3.1 motor puttin out more HP than my 2.6 and a lot more tourque and now taller gears than the 2.6 LU had. Has any one had experience with the 3.1 the pluses and negitives? I think I will be much happier. With this new setup I whould have at least ten more HP and boatloads more tourque.http://www.bassboatcentral.com/boardstuff2/beers.gif
Go with it, it takes a touch longer to build up HP but you'll love it IMHO. Great motor not bad on fuel for what it is. I know 3 people with TR196's, one with a 2.5 200 another with a 200opti and one with a 3.1 200. The 3.1 and the opti are neck and neck. I have twin 200 opti's on my big boat and I know they are strong, 4mph faster than the twin 2.6 200HPDI's I had before on the boat. Anyway all I'm saying is that 3.1 is nasty and can hold its own
by the way what are you doing with your LWP lower...
3.1 might be their best motor made... http://www.bassboatcentral.com/smileys/thumbsup2.gif
Do you guys have any mods done to yours? I am also a little concerned bout LU on the motor. What is thier Lu capable of speed wise and can it be raised pretty high with the stock woter pickups.
The OX66 LU is only good for 82-82 mph before blow out. Thats why I now have an HPDI LU on mine. I have HT rec heads, and lightweight flywheel as of 2 weeks ago.
I just put a 3.1 225 on my 209 i had a 2.6 200 the first thing is the weight difference I had to move the winch stand up 4 inches because of the extra weight in the back. Now for performance, I have not been able to get this new motor dialed in. At first i started with the original jack plate height and it was to low. I modified the original jack plate so I could go higher but I ran out of water pressure. so i went back down some and boat chine walks at 69 bad . It used to run to 72 with no walk. I am sure the weight difference may have something to do with it and I used to trim it out all the way to make it run before and now i dont think i will need as much trim. Still using the same props as before 27p mazco hp 4 and a 25 mazco hp 4 I just have not figured it out yet
post pics when you get it!
<table width="90%" cellspacing=0 cellpadding=0 align=center><tr><td>Quote, originally posted by gambler209 »</td></tr><tr><td class="quote">I just put a 3.1 225 on my 209 i had a 2.6 200 the first thing is the weight difference I had to move the winch stand up 4 inches because of the extra weight in the back. Now for performance, I have not been able to get this new motor dialed in. At first i started with the original jack plate height and it was to low. I modified the original jack plate so I could go higher but I ran out of water pressure. so i went back down some and boat chine walks at 69 bad . It used to run to 72 with no walk. I am sure the weight difference may have something to do with it and I used to trim it out all the way to make it run before and now i dont think i will need as much trim. Still using the same props as before 27p mazco hp 4 and a 25 mazco hp 4 I just have not figured it out yet</td></tr></table>
With the weight of the new motor you will have to go higher with the plate and most likely less trim than before.
I will post pics as soon as I get it. I talked to the guys at HT today and had them add a phase II upgrade to the powerhead and exaust. They said I should expect at least 295 hp at the crank and monster tourque. I believe it will outperform the pro-v quite a bit. With the taller gears I believe that even if I stay with the props I have and run similar RPM's I will finnally be above 80. The best thing bout this motor is that I still have room for gains with porting and large bore throttle body and intake mods if needed. http://www.bassboatcentral.com/smileys/thumbsup2.gif
I think you might want to go with larger diameter props with this motor. http://www.bassboatcentral.com/smileys/thumbsup2.gif
THat is what my Prop guy was telling me but he said it might be hard to find one in a tal enough pitch. WHat pr0op would you suggest?
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http://www.bassboatcentral.com/smileys/Laugh.gif 27-29T1 yamaha prop... TXP3 from 27-32P, TXP-OT4 from 27-32P, Bravo1 from 28-36P... You dont need any other props. http://www.bassboatcentral.com/smileys/thumbsup2.gif
I dred going through the prop set up again wish some of you guys with the big props lived round here so I could figure out what it will take. http://www.bassboatcentral.com/smileys/crying.gif
I have a 27 and a 28 TXP3 that would probably be your fatest props.
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what ya doing with the tempest now http://www.bassboatcentral.com/smileys/wink.gif
When I get it back I will start the testin to see whether or not the Tempest will work or not. If not I will be selling them probly.
21xd how much did the light flywheel help? And where did it help?
<table width="90%" cellspacing=0 cellpadding=0 align=center><tr><td>Quote, originally posted by gamblerjewell »</td></tr><tr><td class="quote">21xd how much did the light flywheel help? And where did it help?</td></tr></table>
I just put it on a couple weeks ago, I have not run the boat this year. Ice is about all gone and waiting for a good day.
let me know. It really helped my 2.6 much better hole shot and mid range and maybe 100 rpm on top. I may have the guys lighten the 3.1 fly wheel.
How long till you get her rigged?
Jewell keep me in mind if the 27 does not work for you anymore. What are you doing with the blown up motor? Or did you trade that stuff in with hydrotec, I'd be interested in it.
2 weeks but cant get the motor till they get the title for it. May take a while.
Man, I bet the wait is killing you!! http://www.bassboatcentral.com/smileys/sweating.gif
You can't imagine the wait is killing me. I can only imagine how well it will run with the new motor with so much tourque and HP. It will bew a totally different beast now. Those tritons in our tx's better watch out dont think they have a chance now. This new motor has 300HP now with the upgrades ordered and should be much more reliable. I feel like I am lying in wait. http://www.bassboatcentral.com/smileys/popcorn.gif http://www.bassboatcentral.com/smileys/popcorn.gif http://www.bassboatcentral.com/boardstuff2/beers.gif
2 weeks isn't that bad, My fishing partner just built a 2.5 200 for his TR 186 we are going to line them up this weekend and see what happens. I'm sure your boat won't have many that can run with it. I'm actually entertaining the idea of putting a promax on mine....
I just got bad news today they told me that it was going to take up 2 months for them to get my new motor registered and titled because the state it came from did not require either and oklahoma does and so does mizzo so for us to make the exchange it must be registered there first. I dont understand why it takes Missouri so long to get this done. I guess that I am going to learn some patience. I am going to go pick up my boat and do some maintenance to it while the motor is off of it. http://www.bassboatcentral.com/smileys/sweating.gif http://www.bassboatcentral.com/smileys/doh.gif http://www.bassboatcentral.com/smileys/doh.gif
you could go black......I've got a HOT 2.5 that needs a home, or it might have to go on my boat.
I fished a tourney out of my dads cobra (201 dc/225 merc) today the wind was blowing 30 mph plus it beat us to death going with the wind not as bad into the wind but going with the wind it was worse than the gambler would have been. Then the troling motor batteries went dead. The son and i finished with 9 lbs bout middle of the pack not bad for only fishing 1/2 day we even culled 7 times. My 9 year old son even culled 3 of the fish a first for him. I want my boat back!!!!!!!!!!!!! http://www.bassboatcentral.com/smileys/crying.gif http://www.bassboatcentral.com/smileys/crying.gif But I gota say the cobra did a good job other than the tolling motor realy cant complain at least I had another boat to fish out of. http://www.bassboatcentral.com/boardstuff2/beers.gif