Help With our Collegiate Club

My name is Aaron Combs and I'm president of our collegiate bass fishing club in Jackson,KY. While fishing down in Lewisville, TX during the Collegiate Championship we sunk our boat and it is being worked on right now. We was able to burrow a boat to fish the tournament in, thankfully!!. I was going to see if anybody would allow us to use their boat next week during the collegiate open on KY Lake. We will treat the boat with best of care and pay for any dmage if it happend. If there is anybody in this bass club that could help us you can call me at 606-272-2045.
Thank You, Aaron Combs

How did you sink your boat?

You sound like a guy that posted on another website yesterday(He was laughed at, a lot!):
This is Darrell Deaton, i fish for hazard community college out of hazard ky, we were down texas fishing in the college bass fishing national championship and had an accident and sank our boat in practice before the tournament, the waves got real big and the water just flooded our boat, a guy let us borrow his skeeter to fish the tournament out of. If anyone has a boat around ky lake that they would let us use it would be greatly appreciated. We will be taking out of Paris Landing State Park. If anyone has one give me a call at 606-398-4398, or 606-568-6352. If you cannot reach me call my partner aaron combs at 606-272-2045 Thanks alot

With a track record like you posted, you're not going to be getting a boat.

You should be asking for a volunteer with a boat to drive you around all day.
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I'm sure someone would chauffeur you around for $100 plus gas per day http://www.bassboatcentral.com/smileys/wink.gif

I'm having a hard time believing this...

Proper grammar and spelling goes a long way especially when requesting favors like these... Have you checked into renting a boat? I'm unfamiliar with the marinas around Kentucky Lake, but I would think you would be able to rent a boat to fish out of if all else fails. Good Luck!

I was down in Texas at the Championship and these guys did actually sink their boat. Asking for a boat however is not the way to go about it though. Yall need to go straight to Mike Hastings or Wade Middleton with your problem and they will do what they can to help you out. I had a bad fuel pump last year down there for the open and they did what they could to help me out. Another way is to see if any volunteers would take you out in their boat. Also, a little late to be taking care of this issue I think.

<table width="90%" cellspacing=0 cellpadding=0 align=center><tr><td>Quote, originally posted by artcarney_agr &raquo;</td></tr><tr><td class="quote">You should be asking for a volunteer with a boat to drive you around all day.
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I'm sure someone would chauffeur you around for $100 plus gas per day http://www.bassboatcentral.com/smileys/wink.gif </td></tr></table>

If they charged them to drive them around Ky Lake, the driver would need a Captain's License. That is basically carrying passenger's for hire which requires an OUPV license on this lake.

If I was available this weekend, I would volunteer to drive them around for free...did it for a couple of young men from Purdue this past spring when they had an accident on the way down here and lost their ride.

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If they charged them to drive them around Ky Lake, the driver would need a Captain's License. That is basically carrying passenger's for hire which requires an OUPV license on this lake.

If I was available this weekend, I would volunteer to drive them around for free...did it for a couple of young men from Purdue this past spring when they had an accident on the way down here and lost their ride. </td></tr></table>

Classiest post on this board, the lounge, and another website that I've seen in a long time. I really just don't understand some of you guys. I'm in the same shape Dave or I would drive them around. Classy Dave as always.

Good luck guys and God Bless,

Tim
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If they charged them to drive them around Ky Lake, the driver would need a Captain's License. That is basically carrying passenger's for hire which requires an OUPV license on this lake.

If I was available this weekend, I would volunteer to drive them around for free...did it for a couple of young men from Purdue this past spring when they had an accident on the way down here and lost their ride. </td></tr></table>

What if they drove them around all day for free, and then sold them a really expensive lure afterward? http://www.bassboatcentral.com/smileys/wink.gif

Have an accident with them in the boat and see how much water that lie will hold in federal court. http://www.bassboatcentral.com/smileys/wink.gif

We was headed back to the dock to load up for the day and when we hit the main lake seven footers was rolling. We rode the waves out till my motor shut down, once the motor shut down waves just kept rolling over the boat and the bilge pump had quit working eailier that day.

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I have insurance - don't see that being an issue.

On the same subject - if FLW pays a guy to drive around a cameraman in his personal boat, does he have to be a certified captain?

We appreciate the kindness and we would be more than glad to pay somebody to take us out and pay for the gas. So many people is so disrespectful about things, I mean this is how we was able to get a boat down in Texas after the accident.

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If you havent already, you really need to contact mike hastings or wade middleton. They will do what they can to get you a boat for the tournament. They did it for me last year. If there is a way, they will find it. Hope to see yall down there, leaving sunday morning.

Good luck guys! Hopefully those high dollar side imaging units will help you out some this time!

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I have insurance - don't see that being an issue.

On the same subject - if FLW pays a guy to drive around a cameraman in his personal boat, does he have to be a certified captain? </td></tr></table>

Your insurance is not worth a penny when carrying a passenger for hire unless you have a business liability policy...as far as the FLW boat...depends on what they are paying...his expenses or a fee....the law is the law. Of course it only applies if you get caught...kind of like your drinking on the water you like to brag about...sooner or later.

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Your insurance is not worth a penny when carrying a passenger for hire unless you have a business liability policy...as far as the FLW boat...depends on what they are paying...his expenses or a fee....the law is the law. Of course it only applies if you get caught...kind of like your drinking on the water you like to brag about...sooner or later.</td></tr></table>

http://www.bassboatcentral.com/smileys/doh.gif I don't brag about it. I always designate a driver if I'm doing that. That's what women are for! http://www.bassboatcentral.com/smileys/Laugh.gif

After reading the OPs post. I am thinking a little less fishing and a little more English 101 is needed.

Here is the law that references the requirement for a Captain's license re receiving money:

Section 2101 of title 46, (21a) of the United States Code defines passenger for hire as follows:

A “passenger for hire” means a passenger for whom consideration is contributed as a condition of carriage on the vessel, whether directly or indirectly flowing to the owner, charterer, operator, agent, or any other person having an interest in the vessel.

Section 2101 of title 46 (5a) defines “consideration” as an economic benefit, inducement, right, or profit including pecuniary (fancy attorney word for money) payment accruing to an individual, person, or entity, but not including a voluntary sharing of the actual expenses of the voyage, by monetary contribution or donation of fuel, food, beverage, or other supplies.” Additionally, employees or business clients that have not contributed for their carriage, and are carried for morale or entertainment purposes, are not considered as an exchange of consideration.

Gosh Dave, I guess next you're going to tell me I have to get a license to sell beer in the Rock Quarry?

Drinking on the water is illegal, whether driving or riding. Out-of-state boaters find out quite often that it is so.

except on the ohio river right near us,as long as the driver isnt over.08 your good to go,have yachts and cruisers galore with drunk idiots all over them http://www.bassboatcentral.com/smileys/roll.gif

I mean really guys are we going to bash someone over grammar when they are in need of help?? Didn’t know that when you typed things on BBC it was for an essay contest or for a grade. But, that being said I do agree that it is a little late to try and get this accomplished I guess maybe you can call a few dealerships around the area and see if they would be willing to rent you a boat, or even the marina's. Please explain your situation to them you'll never know if you do not ask. Secondly you defiantly need to talk with Mike or Wade hopefully they can help you out I don’t know and it also may be an issue about having another individual in the boat such as a driver, I may be wrong but I am not sure if they would allow them to drive you around, possible against the rules in this one. I will talk to a few people that I know see if anyone would be interested pending that Mike or Wade says that it would be fine but, I can not make any promises as far as finding you someone most people already have things planned out and are fishing tournaments themselves.

Rhino those UL fans like to kick folks when they are down cause they get it done to them so much they are use to it so they want to see what its like to do it back

If I give gas money to the boater after a tournament, then does he have to be a certified captain. Is it not the same thing?

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<table width="90%" cellspacing=0 cellpadding=0 align=center><tr><td>Quote, originally posted by 201pro &raquo;</td></tr><tr><td class="quote">If I give gas money to the boater after a tournament, then does he have to be a certified captain. Is it not the same thing?</td></tr></table>

Section 2101 of title 46 (5a) defines “consideration” as an economic benefit, inducement, right, or profit including pecuniary (fancy attorney word for money) payment accruing to an individual, person, or entity, but not including a voluntary sharing of the actual expenses of the voyage, by monetary contribution or donation of fuel, food, beverage, or other supplies.” Additionally, employees or business clients that have not contributed for their carriage, and are carried for morale or entertainment purposes, are not considered as an exchange of consideration.

Obviously not