Squarebill rod/reel/line

What are ya using for shallow cover squarebills:


Dobyns 705CB graphite / Pflueger Patriarch XT / 15lb McCoys copolymer

Dobyns 764CB RM / Pflueger Patriarch XT / 10 lb fluoro (my open water crankbait setup)

I'm ready,
H2O's, KVD's, Xcaliburs, Spros, Rebels, Sissons,

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Modified by OhioChamp183 at 9:37 PM 3/6/2012

depends...I have a couple set ups I'll throw a squarebill on...

1) 6'6" MH SMS w/ PQ / 15 CXX
2) 7' MH KVD / PQ / 12 Fluoro

depends on how I'm feeling, and what cover/ what I want the bait to do http://xs-s.com/zf/images/smile/emthup.gif <br /><br />
Modified by bigGUNS04 at 7:06 PM 3/30/2011


Modified by bigGUNS04 at 6:37 AM 3/31/2011

Dobyns 705cb/TE50GT 12lb YZH
Dobyns 706cb/TE100GT 15lb YZH

Love TE's and Dobyns for crankin'.......All stocked up on Speed Traps and L.C.'s for the new year too!

Dobyns champion 705cbmf glass
Daiwa Type R+
Lake fork Power silk in 15lb..

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Quantum Superlite 7' med (mod/fast)
Code reel 7.1:1
10lb Suffix mono

Want to upgrade the reel, but it's served me well. I've been using the new Xcalibur square bills lately and really like them...cheaper and pretty much the same as the LCs from what I can tell.

Jeff, since you have that wide an assortment of squarebills, as you use them you should write a synopsis of your opinion on them..likes, dislikes, how they track, ability to bounce off of stumps, etc.

It should make an interesting read... http://www.bassboatcentral.com/boardstuff2/beers.gif

<table width="90%" cellspacing=0 cellpadding=0 align=center><tr><td>Quote, originally posted by c rig &raquo;</td></tr><tr><td class="quote"> Jeff, since you have that wide an assortment of squarebills, as you use them you should write a synopsis of your opinion on them..likes, dislikes, how they track, ability to bounce off of stumps, etc.

It should make an interesting read... http://www.bassboatcentral.com/boardstuff2/beers.gif </td></tr></table>

will do! http://www.bassboatcentral.com/smileys/thumbsup2.gif

I've used the H2O's, Sissons, and older Rebels for a while already. Newbie with the KVD's, Xcaliburs & Spro Little Johns though. http://www.bassboatcentral.com/smileys/glasses.gif

St. Croix legend glass Daiwa Tatuala and 16 lb Sniper FC

Old setup was Dobyns 705CB & a chronarch spooled with 14lb mono. This year I'm using the Dobyns 764CB RM

powell squarebill rod and KVD reel

Depends on the bait and cover.

For a Lucky Craft BDS 3 or RC 2.5 I like 15-17 florocarbon. I throw them on a 7m rod.

But for smaller wood baits like a Dbait I use 12lb copolymer or 15copolymer if its heavy cover. I throw them on light 6'6m rod.

There isn't a best combo and line for every squarebill in every situation. Fishing rip rap and fishing thru heavy brush are much different.

Which rod I use depends on where I'm fishing the square bill. If it's in more open water say in rip rap, piling or isolated stumps I'll use a Powell 706CB with a 5.1 gear ratio reel; if I'm fishing heavy timber (lay downs) then I'll switch off to the 684CEF with a 6.3 up to a 7.1 gear ratio reel.

<table width="90%" cellspacing=0 cellpadding=0 align=center><tr><td>Quote, originally posted by Mike Adams &raquo;</td></tr><tr><td class="quote">Which rod I use depends on where I'm fishing the square bill. If it's in more open water say in rip rap, piling or isolated stumps I'll use a Powell 706CB with a 5.1 gear ratio reel; if I'm fishing heavy timber (lay downs) then I'll switch off to the 684CEF with a 6.3 up to a 7.1 gear ratio reel. </td></tr></table>

yep!
That's why I have 2 setups for cranking as stated above, the 685CB & 705CB http://www.bassboatcentral.com/smileys/thumbsup2.gif

I throw a square bill a ton. Have over the last 5 years. Normally I throw it on a G. Loomis CRB783, Loomis, GLX MBR782, or GLX or IMX MBR843 if in cover. Only time I use the CBR783 is when I am throwing them on main lake points where there's no cover since that is a light rod... http://xs-s.com/zf/images/smile/emthup.gif

G Loomis GLX BCR802
Chronarch 50MG
Seaguar 15# Fluoro

7' St.Croix Premier M Crankbait
Shimano Citica E

The lake I fish the most is very shallow so squarebills and coffin bills have been the biggest part of my crank fishing. Before the above setup I had a Daiwa TD2 on a Team Daiwa rod. The St.Croix rod has made a big difference. St.Croix rods are the best.
I think in more open type water a 6 ratio is better. In stump fields the 5 ratio seems better.

updated : falcon jason christie squarebill rod 6'8
Curado 70
12lb Sniper FC

All Star ASR 7' 2" medium......12-15lb Pline........Curado 200BSF

I like the poll on the KVD deal... I don't think it was his bait that won the classic (althought it may have been since I have a buddy that caught a 7 on the second cast with that bait), I think it was him switching to it the fastest and the way he was fishing it. He had enough of the baits that he coudl repeatedly get hung up, cut them off, tie on a new one and keep fishing whereas the other guys did not. If you noticed during the footage and I think he even commented on it, the way he was catching a lot of the bigger fish was he was hanging the bait on the stumps repeatedly and ripping them off. If one hung, he just cut it off while the other guys were going in to get there bait.

If you noticed Remitz and the Federation guy were both throwing squarebills, as were Martens and Rook. The difference is that they did not switch until nearly a day after KVD I believe. I may be wrong though so I bought a few of them anyways..

Forgot, I'm using a Dobyns 765CB Glass with an older MetXT and 20lb Tatsu for my squarebills...

when fishing shallow shoreline cover, you guys are using 7'6" rods for throwing squarebills! http://www.bassboatcentral.com/smileys/popcorn.gif

Dobyns 705CB Glass is the best I've used for my custom balsas

Here's a little video clip I did in action: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5LJLDKygb1A

Last year used a Loomis CBR855 GLX

Now I'm using a Loomis CBR847, Shimano Calais 100A and 20# XPS FC line.

several -

big wide wobblers around heavier cover:

Loomis CBR 756, Calais 100a, 17lb P-Line CXX

mid sized, moderate cover...

Loomis MBR 782 GLX, Chronarch 50mg, 12lb Gamma Edge FC

smaller, lighter finesse type baits

Loomis SBR 751, Conquest 50, 8lb Sunline FC

<table width="90%" cellspacing=0 cellpadding=0 align=center><tr><td>Quote, originally posted by OhioChamp183 &raquo;</td></tr><tr><td class="quote">when fishing shallow shoreline cover, you guys are using 7'6" rods for throwing squarebills! http://www.bassboatcentral.com/smileys/popcorn.gif
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Yep, I really like the longer rods. Everyone is different so it is probably what you get yourself the most comfortable with. I two hand roll cast unless I'm pitching/flipping and the longer rods just work better for me. I have bad wrists so I can't one arm cast anymore with any accuracy anymore. I've found that my accuracy has dialed in from a 3' diameter circle to about a softball since going to the two handed roll cast.

When I pick up the square bill, I am throwing it the same places I throw a jig and then I can also get longer casts when needed to cover flats or open water patches between cover. The longer rod is second nature to me due to pitching/flipping so much and it let's me pitch them into the same type places I pitch a jig (under docks, shade pockets, under overhangs, etc.) Just my thoughts. I have very few rods, maybe 2 or 3, that are under 7'3". I had been using the 7' 705CB Glass or 705CBMF Glass but since going to the 765CB Glass I don't see myself going back. Thinking about trying another graphite rod though after seeing Civicrr's post on the 764 RMCB Rod on a different site...

<table width="90%" cellspacing=0 cellpadding=0 align=center><tr><td>Quote, originally posted by swilliams &raquo;</td></tr><tr><td class="quote">

Thinking about trying another graphite rod though after seeing Civicrr's post on the 764 RMCB Rod on a different site...

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That post over on TT got me to buy mine! http://www.bassboatcentral.com/smileys/wink.gif
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Dobyns Savvy SS705C with a Daiwa Zillion spooled with Sunline Sniper FC in 15-20lb.

Curado 201d Custom 8 parabolic rod DD22's
Curado 101d Dobyns Champion 704cb
Daiwa Fuego Loomis Cbr843!

5' Ugly Stick
Mitchell 300 (original model)
Shoe strings tied together


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For close in hard cover

Curado 50E
Cumara CUC63H
Sunline Supernatural 16lb

for longer casts and medium cover

Curado 200E5
St. Croix 3C70MHM Avid custom rod by ALX rods
Sunline Supernatural 12lb


Modified by tommyc_285XL at 3:54 PM 5/24/2011

<table width="90%" cellspacing=0 cellpadding=0 align=center><tr><td>Quote, originally posted by rabbitass &raquo;</td></tr><tr><td class="quote">5' Ugly Stick
Mitchell 300 (original model)
Shoe strings tied together

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Kistler micro mag 6'8 mh
6.4 Revo Premier
17lb mono

We do not fish much open waters...its tight quarters with cy trees, piers and cables sooo I use Kistler Z-Bone 6-3 mediums...12# Triple Fish or Viscious fluor...Pfleuger Pats (I have 12)...and I mostly power fish topwaters and cranks..one side note: put the biggest front hook u can and a #6 KVD on the back...have not lost a crank bass in 2011...now, of course, I will this weekend...lol...

Larger squarebills:
St Croix Legend Elite 7' MH
Conquest 200
#15 YZ Ultrasoft

Smaller squarebills:
St Croix LT 7' Big Cranker
Calcutta 100DC
12# YZ Ultrasoft

dobyn's 685 cb
shimano chronarch d7
15lb suffix
and all the rc's i can throw haha

For the 1.5 types I use:
G-Blanks custom 7' Glass composite Okuma Cayenne 10# FC

For the 2.5 types I use:
Apache custom 7' Okuma Cayenne 12# FC

For the 3.5 type I use:
Fish Hazards custom 8' micro guide Diawa TDA-153H (regeared to 5.1:1) 12# FC

Shimano Metanium 100 MG
Cumara 7' Hev MF
12# Floro

Dobyns 705 CB Glass.
Lew's TS1-S
14-16# Fluoro...

Dobyns 705 CB Glass
Lew's tournament pro
14 Fluoro

G-Loomis CBR781 Rod w/Shimano Calcutta 50B reel