There is a bunch of teaser videos on Youtube of the new 2023 Tatula Elite signature rods. I like the change from EVA and the silver look!
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There is a bunch of teaser videos on Youtube of the new 2023 Tatula Elite signature rods. I like the change from EVA and the silver look!
The vast majority are still eva, only a couple with cork.
no more AGS Guides, kinda disapointing to me
I was hoping DAIWA has more USDM offerings in and around 300$, BLX and Swagger are JDM and model options are limited
I’m not bothered by the no AGS. I don’t think they justified the large increase in price as I can’t hardly tell a difference. Maybe I’m just not refined enough. They must not have sold as well as Daiwa hoped though.
I really like the black reel seats. Makes them look much less cheap.
Fyi I currently have two previous Elites and have had four at one time. I like some and others not so much.
Im going to assume that the Cody Johnston 7'6" spinning rod is basically the Seth Feider AGS rod of the previous generation except no AGS guides and with a cork handle? Looking at purchasing one, didn't know if anybody had more info. All the specs are identical to Seth's rod.
One of the things I picked up on was that the 2023 is Cory said parablolic. I have the Seth rod, and its pretty fast tip. most the bend is at the top, would be cool to see a bend comparison....... So I am thinking it may be different.Quote:
Originally Posted by AustinC
My thoughts on AGS, love them on spinning, but on casting I do not think there is as much of and advantage. Have a few Steez casting rods and spinning.
Full rundown on the Daiwa website
I'm going to pile on here, the lack of AGS is extremely disappointing. The Ehler 7'0 AGS rod is such a great rod, I was hoping for an updated version with the AGS guides. Shoot.
How do you like your Seth Rod? I re-watched the video I see what you're talking about. I wonder how that will handle. Very interesting tho that all the specs are the same even the they talk about different rod behaviorsQuote:
Originally Posted by basscat21
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Originally Posted by StymoDe
Rumor is rods with Fuji Alconite guides will be released first followed by AGS rods later at ICAST.Quote:
Originally Posted by lakesareabassin
I’m excited to try the Johnston 7’5” rods as well as Walter’s 7’6” rods. I think they filled in the gap of bottom contact rods missing in their lineup.
I like the rod have a Tatula 4000/YGK braid in it. Casts well with matabou, okashiras, neds. But as I said its mostly tip where it bends. Would be interesting to see tge new 2023.Quote:
Originally Posted by AustinC
I also have "the one" the bend is similarQuote:
Originally Posted by AustinC
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Originally Posted by basscat21
After having the Seth rod, are you thinking the more parabolic flex (if thats what it really is) will help the rod out?
I have been tying messing with marabou/deer hair since the 70s, for the longest time I used a Garcia (not ABU) river Trout rod, 7-6...it it was very parabolic, for my marabou. I believe it was probably too parabolic. So it would need to be a balance, I think the seth and the Steez could go a bit deeper in the blank. I do think the light fast tip helps fling the 1/16 3/32 size pretty well. Not that I need another of these rods, I have a P5Flyssa on order, and several older 7-6 lt rods. but I am very intrigued by the comment Cory made. I like the seth, but if they could improve it......needs a bit more flex down the blank. Tied 4 doz tonight.....Quote:
Originally Posted by AustinC
On the topic of the the 7'6 Seth rod, hair jigs are the one thing I don't throw on that rod. I love it for 2.75 swimmers, drop shots, spy baits, and 1/8 and 3/16 neds. It's just a bit strong for hair. The 7'6 kage is much better suited for hair.
Yeah they look good. I’ll tell you the best part though. Stores are starting to offload their current inventory and you can get some tatula elites at killer prices.
Would agree that is why the Cory comment on the blank becomes interesting, they may have realized itQuote:
Originally Posted by slipknobber bot
Got to play with a few of the new rods this weekend. The new Chris Johnston Hair Jig rod is much closer to a light to me, feels like an awesome marabou jig rod but to me does not seem very versatile. The Cory Johnston 7'5" MH felt like a soft MH to me with a little deeper bend, while the 7'5" H feels more like a MH+ and actually picked one up. Nothing to report on sensitivity since we are still covered in ice.
I stopped by a shop over the weekend that had a few of the new ‘23 Tatula Elites in stock. The one I think I will be picking up is the 6’-10” M XF Walters jerkbait rod. I have the 6’-9” Feider ML jerkbait rod and love that one but want another jerkbait rod and think the new Walters rod will be a nice complimentary rod in the arsenal. Felt really good in my hands.
Question on the new Walters Jerkbait rod - it shows the lure ratings on Daiwa site as 1/2 - 1 1/2 which seems heavy for a jerkbait rod. Are those rating correct?
I was playing around with this model today, and yes, as odd as it seems, the rating is printed as 1/2 oz to 1.5 oz. Now, the Lucky Craft Pointer 128 is a chunk of a jerk bait at 1 oz. I don't throw that bait very often, but based on what I do use for that bait, I could actually see this rod being able to handle it. Again, I haven't fished it yet, but it certainly does have a lot of power and a pretty deep flex into the blank. It wouldn't be my first choice for a Vision 110, but I bet it will handle a Vision 110+2 very nicely.Quote:
Originally Posted by heelamonster
I actually wouldn’t mind if they did away with ags guides after reading many peoples experiences with them. Would love a non-ags version of the ehrler 7’ m-mh rod.
I have the 6’ 9” Seth Fieder rod and I use it for 110’s. The tip/action is WAY to soft in my opinion, I can’t actually jerk a jerkbait because the rod absorbs the twitch and turns it into a pull.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bronzefly
I’m hoping the Patrick Walters rod has the faster tip with a preserved parabolic action.
Any idea?
I heard some rumors that Daiwa will be releasing AGS models at iCast. Can anyone confirm this?
Think about this...
right now Seth Feider has only one rod that he designed in this series, the 6-9ml. As much as he loves the 7-0 MMH AGS rod do you think they are gonna drop it without replacing it with something else? I don't know if it will be Icast or not but I would look for a MMH replacement rod with his name on it. Might not be 7-0 either since he also uses the Kage 7-3 a lot.
Anyone have the scoop on the Patrick walters jerbait rod? Is it a noodle like the Seth fieder rod?
No it’s a lot different than Seth’s haven’t caught a fish on it yet but it felt nice
i looked for a use feider rod, missed all of the sales on them, and finally give up a grabed a fuego 6'9m reg action for jerkbaits. it has worked out perfect the 3 or 4 trips i have used it. it was only $80 shipping and allQuote:
Originally Posted by Dirtyeggroll
Totally agree with this statement. You can throw hair on the SF 7'6", but it is not the ideal action for that application. A tad too stiff for my liking, but it is a fantastic Neko, Wacky and heavier Ned Rigs rod if you like longer rods for those applications. I find it best for single hook applications, and bordering on slightly too still for tiny treble bait applications like spybaits.Quote:
Originally Posted by slipknobber bot
What's a good a rig rod in this line up for lets say a one once
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Originally Posted by GoneFishingLTN
Yes, but…. Those AGS guides are waaaay too brittle. I’ve been fishing 50 years and I think I’ve had to replace 5 guides in my life. Three of them were AGS on the Ehrler rod.Quote:
Originally Posted by lakesareabassin
To each their own. I fish a lot and the Steez AGS rods are a staple for me. I've never broken one that wasn't my fault going back to the original series of Steez with AGS guides. The vast majority of broken AGS guides are due to user error.Quote:
Originally Posted by FryDog62
There isn't a specific A-Rig rod in the series, but the 7'4" Heavy Ish Monroe "Frog" rod will handle a one ounce total weight A-rig easily.Quote:
Originally Posted by GoneFishingLTN
I fish a lot of the AGS guides either on the Steez, that Tatula Elites and the St. Croix Xtremes and I've had to send in 3 rods with a broken guide as well. They got them back really quick and fixed them and never charged me anything, plus I think all of them broke do to my fault. For the amount of time I use them and only 3 guides in 4 years I'm fine with that. They add a lot to the rod imo. I'm excited for the new release of the AGS models. I still have 2 of the Ehler 7MMH and they are fantastic! Will definitely upgrade one when they come out as a refreshed version.