I sold my z520 had one last 13 years. I am looking at rt188 or rt 198.I am looking for any and all advice both good and bad on theae.. What options are a must ? Thanks in advance
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I sold my z520 had one last 13 years. I am looking at rt188 or rt 198.I am looking for any and all advice both good and bad on theae.. What options are a must ? Thanks in advance
I like my 198. Came from 521
I had a RT188 coming from a VS188. Honestly I liked the 188 just as good if not better. The obvious, speed was the main issue but you know that going in. Just remember you're in an aluminum boat so don't go jumping those bigger waves like you would in a fiberglass boat.
I love my RT188. I came from a Triton 21 and honestly I dont miss it or the room. BUT, I do not fish tournaments anymore either.
I added a few things to my188 and it suits my fishing style just fine.
I added a coin box and a step up to front deck and trick steps. I am HAPPY with it.
I really like my 198.
As you can see I have my rig loaded.
As stated in other posts, it is an Aluminum boat, so it is less tolerant to rough conditions.
For me, I wish it had a little more leg room.
Lots of storage throughout the boat including the transom area.
Very good speed. Even loaded down with a with a 1/2 filled tank, I can hit 53 mph.
Very easy to load and unload.
I think you'll be happy. (I am more mentally comfortable in my tin than I was in the Fiberglass.)
198p here. It's not the Maserati that my 19' Javelin was but it's also not the dump truck that my G3 was. Ride is fantastic. My buddy compares it to the ride of his 520C Ranger. It's not that good but it's fantastic for an aluminum boat. Just know going in that it's a 50mph boat. Some extra $$ will speed it up a bit but it's still a 50mph boat. Only changes I've made is adding struts to the compartments that don't already have them. Few bucks on Amazon and installed them myself. IF I were doing it all over again, I'd add larger Helix units than the ones I had installed when I bought it. Good Fishing! It's a great rig.
2021 RT198p here. Love it now. Had to get used to it and learn how to handle and load it coming from a smaller boat.
I run 55-56mph by myself full tank no livewell water. So fast enough for what I do. I run a Bravo 1 FS 4-blade. It runs much better for me than the Tempest Plus that came with the boat. That is one potential upgrade.
It rides soft in moderate chop when you are at full speed and trimmed up. It runs less soft at slower speeds with less trim as obviously more hull is wet and you don't cut waves as well. I usually just run 50mph with lots of trim whenever I am running the boat likes that and I do to.
What is worth paying for are:
- tandem trailer
- 4-blade prop as you backup
- spotlock trolling motor
- jackplate (manual 6"-8") is a must
- graphs as much screen size as you can afford
- sonar tricks of you choice (FFS, 360)
Look... people love to bash the new Ranger aluminums. They do go cheap on some parts like bunk carpet, lug nuts, trailer shackles and bolts, a few other areas maybe. I upgraded these and I still ended up at an attractive price point.
The main goal is to have a great fishing platform and the 198p... and I am sure the 188p, definitely hit that mark.
2020 RT198 here. 150 ProXs, 4" hydraulic jackplate, 8' power poles, tandem axle trailer, 3 twelve-inch graphs (HDS12 at console, HDS 12 and Helix 12 at bow), Ultrex, MEGA 360, and Active Target among other things. It's a fantastic boat. As others have stated, you have to remember that it's an aluminum boat....it does have its limitations. But for what it is, it's a great riding/handling/fishing machine. Very stable, handles rough water very well. I care less than zero about speed but fully loaded with 3 grown men, it's an upper 40's/50 mph boat. Some add-ons I would suggest...
1) Trick step - best money I've spent on this boat
2) Keel guard - yes, it can be done...
3) Hot foot and dual trim levers
4) Remote drain (this may be standard on the new models, not sure)
5) Remote (external) battery plug in port (again, this may be standard now, not sure)
6) DD26 transom saver
7) Power pole covers from Rod Warrior USA
8) Tuffskinz motor cover
Hope this helps.
Reb
I love my 2015 198P, it's been a great boat so far.
If fishing bigger waters I would get the p (pad) model for a better ride. You will still get some wave splash on windy days, can't avoid it!
Definitely get a spot lock trolling motor, brand of motor is your choice.
I spent over 20 years in glass boats and don't miss it one bit. Very happy with the Ranger!
Better TM and upgrade the electronics. Max out HP.
I would look into something else for aluminium the RT188 only comes with a 115 and the RT198 which is 2 inches short of being a 20' boat only comes with a 150 as the biggest motor. Both are underpowered. Crestliner makes an 18 footer with a 150 on it and a 19 footer with a 200hp and so does Xpress, even a Tracker 195 is about the same size as an RT188 and you can get a 150 on it. I don't know why Ranger underpoweres their aluminum boats so much.
I would get the 188p because I don't trust any .100 tin to last with a 450# motor. Listed below are my options, but the most important is the Ultrex and the Step.
Your trick steps did you buy lock they sell?Quote:
Originally Posted by Pokie Pa
I have a 150 Etec on my RT188 with a jet unit….so it’s technically a 105 hp, but the weight is the same a regular 150. No issues with weight.
Love my RT188. Have spent the winter doing some mods and tomorrow will be adding my new ultrex. Great boat
ADDED Ultrex to my RT188. I have a 115 Yamaha...Fast enough for me. I had fast boats before and do not need one now.
The Ultrex made a good boat a great boat. The front deck is awesome with space and layout considered.
I would be more concerned with a brand new one since they moved the manufacturing plant. If I was buying new, I woukd probably look elsewhere....maybe Xpress or Vexus. I also would not hang anything bigger than a 115 on .100 aluminum. There is a reason Xpress uses thicker aluminum in the boats with big HP motors.
Lol I love the great lengths people go though to justify having a small motor. There is no difference on the amount of issues with the hulls of .100 aluminum boats with 150 HP vs ones with 115 hp and smaller motors. A lot more goes into the equation than how thick the aluminium is, I have seen transom welds cracks on boats with 50-60 HP motors just like what can happen with a 150 HP motor. It is a universal issue with all welded aluminum boat brands, some crack and some don't, all has to do with how well the welds were done. Not that big of a deal to fix either If you can find someone or a shop that welds aluminum, just one of those things you may have to deal with when owning an aluminum boat, don't let it scare you.
It can be a big deal welding up a crack with the way a lot of boats are made these days. With the decks being welded to the hull and all the foam injected in the hull it can be a very expensive fix. That’s why a lot of cracked hulls get sent back to the factory and oftentimes they replace the hull rather than try to repair it under warranty.
I have the Triton TX18 with the Mercury 115 and it’s fine for the fishing I do.
Not everyone with a boat cares about running a race from one spot to the next every time they start the motor. For the kind of fishing I do I seldom run over 35 MPH.
Yes it is a big big deal welding a crack in some places. A lot of shops won't even TOUCH it with the foam behind the crack.
Having a boat with .100 aluminum and a heavy motor over about a 115 HP is taking a risk you don't have to take. It is a mistake you can avoid. Xpress has been building these for a very long time and the bigger higher HP boats have thicker aluminum - at least in the transom. I am sure they do it for a reason.
Personally, if the boat had a 150 or bigger on .100 aluminum, I would not buy it. Why risk it? Find a manufacturer that uses a heavier structure.
you do realize almost all aluminum boats manufacturer uses .100 thick aluminum and express uses .125 which is more but not more when talking thousandthsQuote:
Originally Posted by FloridaFlyer
I agree with using .125 aluminum on the hull of an aluminum boat. Regular readers of this forum have seen many cracks and other failures over the years most of which was .100 thick.
If I am not mistaken, Vexus has started using .125 on their hulls after experiencing some cracks.
Whatever makes you feel better LOL. In reality .125 aluminum boat with a 115hp could crack just like a .100 aluminum boat with a 150 could, again there is more into the equation than how thick the aluminum is, like the quality of welds and how the transom is braced. Shops around here have no problems with fixing the welds on aluminum boats.Quote:
Originally Posted by FloridaFlyer
Thanks for all the input. Still have decided yet hopefully this week
So you are saying all things equal that you would just as soon or rather have a .100 aluminum as you had a .125 aluminum boat. They make both so why gamble...Quote:
Originally Posted by bassfisher444
There have been a lot of reports here for years on cracks in .100 aluminum hulls with heavy high HP motors and also some lower HP. It woukd be a hard sell for some to put tge extra stress on the .100....but they still sell them to some people. I understand why now.... they find people like you to sell them to. LOL.
EXACTLY RIGHT.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bill Reynolds
I am saying that a 150 hp motor is not a problem at all on a .100 aluminium hull as long as the welds are good and the transom is braced correctly, there is thousands of them running around without a single issue. Yes a .125 aluminium hull would be better, but a weld on it could crack just as easily if it isn't a good weld, the quality of the welds is more important than how thick the aluminium is, and it is very hard to get a consistent weld every time which is why some boats have cracked welds and some don't. Also I haven't seen a boat brand that offers both .100 and .125 options on the same hull.Quote:
Originally Posted by FloridaFlyer
Ok a RT188 with a 115 is a very economical boat to own and operate. Once you move to a 150 all that changes. If you can stay away from rough water it is a GREAT boat.
Wow, just when I thought it couldn't get any better, you can't make this stuff up. What exactly changes that makes it less economical, and what makes it economical to begin with? I would love to hear this one.Quote:
Originally Posted by jrbdad
I would actually agree with the 188 being more economical. I had a 188 before moving up to the 198. The 188 was a lighter boat and therefore was easier to trailer/etc. The 115 definitely burned less gas but being a smaller motor, lower speeds, etc I would expect that. I have a LOT more “stuff” on the 198 than I had on the 188 (power poles, dual 12-graphs at the bow, etc). It’s just a bigger, heavier boat that is a little more expensive to operate…just as a 21’ fiberglass boat with a 250 would be more expensive to operate than my 198. Both are great boats that fish as good as any with the trolling motor down. I don’t believe you’ll be disappointed.
What about the same boat with a 115 vs a 150 HP?Quote:
Originally Posted by Rebelkris76
pretty simple, but I will try to explain it to you if you don’t understand. It’s lighter, there for uses less fuel to tow and to drive.Quote:
Originally Posted by bassfisher444
The 115 pro sx sips fuel. The 150 not so much. Don’t really care how you drive it it isn’t going to get the same fuel economy that the 115 gets. Any way moving on.
to the op, The RT188 is a good boat. We like ours. I may move to a bigger glass boat in year or so to be better in rough water. I am holding off though cause it cost me very little to use this boat
On the same boat the 150 will use more fuel than the 115 both running wide open, but if you run the 150 at part throttle going the same speed as the 115 does wide open then the 150 will use less fuel.Quote:
Originally Posted by jrbdad
^^^^ThisQuote:
Originally Posted by bassfisher444
I run the Merc 150 4S and it is super economical on fuel. Super easy to do 100hr maintenance yourself.
Nothing wrong with the 115 it is a solid outboard as well. If you are wanting to run at 35mph I bet the 115 uses less fuel. If you want to run at 45mph, I would bet the 150 uses less. If you want to run at 50-55mph, good luck with the 115 on most hulls.
Rt188 does not come with a 150. Bigger boats do. Bigger boats weight more, just a thought. The 150 I have uses plenty of fuelQuote:
Originally Posted by jrbdad
Boats of other brands the same size or smaller than the RT188s do come with 150s though.Quote:
Originally Posted by jrbdad
X2...Quote:
Originally Posted by javjoe
TM with spot lock is a must!
The reason I went from fiberglass to Aluminum was to have a boat that was a little lighter and ran well with a smaller motor. So I bought a 19' Vexus with a 115hp. It has a .100 hull and performs great. My friend has owned a Ranger RT188 with 115hp for a few years and loves it. The big motors on aluminum boats don't interest me. If I was wanting to run fast and felt I needed a 150-200hp engine, I would stay with glass boats.Quote:
Originally Posted by bassfisher444
The Merc 150 4S is a four cylinder. Trust me it is NOT a "big" engine in relative terms. Works great on 19ft plus or minus aluminum hulls.
But please... carry on bashing that combo. It is entertaining!
Not everyone wants a fiberglass boat, aluminum is better for where and how I fish. An 18.5' aluminium boat with a 150 hp on it is ideal for me.Quote:
Originally Posted by Boat4Life
I agree.Quote:
Originally Posted by Johnnyred