Yo ucan record AutoChart LIVE frrom the ONIX direct to ZeroLine Card.
Yo ucan record AutoChart LIVE frrom the ONIX direct to ZeroLine Card.
Autochart Zerolines Sd card will work in all 800+ series with newer software updates. It also works on 700 HD series as far as I know. I have a 788ci HD depthfinder, and it works fine on mine. I heard it doesn't work on non-HD series 700's though. Probably too much for the processor.Quote:
Originally Posted by Chris's
I'm also pretty sure it will work with 688's since those were released after my 788's. Helix models only take micro-sd cards, so those cannot use Autochart at this time. I'm guessing Humminbird will come out with micro-sd AutoChart cards soon.
Alex, if you are interested in depth data on a river or lake, that isn't included on the zerolines sd card, you'll have to create that shoreline data yourself. It is possible in AutoChart to create your own custom shoreline data.Quote:
Originally Posted by AlexBorzov
Alex, it's not necessarily the fact that you need shoreline data. It's more the fact that it is an encrypted sd card that works in your Humminbird unit. It would not be a good business decision to let people create maps and copies on any SD card. So, the zerolines are necessarily needed since you can create your own in the AutoChart software, but the encrypted zerolines sd card IS needed to take the map you've produced and use it on different depthfinders.Quote:
Originally Posted by AlexBorzov
skigill, Yes Onix has autochart built in and you don't need the zerolines sd card. However, that is only good for 8 hrs of data. Beyond that, you start losing data. So, for most people, they're going to want a zerolines sd card to store more map data onto.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bob B
Bob B, ONIX can store up to 8 hours of AutoChart Live data on-board. You will need a ZeroLines SD card to store and display more data than that. You can return to a lake over and over again to add data, and the map will reprocess to accommodate old and new data together without any problems.
Thanks CamoHunter ...... I was wondering if you could move that onboard data to an SD card .....or does it only exist on the unit. I understand if you recorded to a zero line card initially, but didn't know if you could move it later.Quote:
Originally Posted by CamoHunter
You can move that onboard data to an SD card.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bob B
From what I gather on page 24 here: http://www.humminbird.com/WorkArea/D...t.aspx?id=6487
It sounds like you can save the actual map that you create from live data. But I'm not sure what happens to the data that was used to create that map image, if you don't save it (the track files/sonar recordings).
Here's what I believe ONIX is actually doing, based on my experience with the AutoChart PC program. Onix is taking your lat,long,depth points and processing them into a map on-the-fly. Inside the AC folder, it is storing and updating a map 'image' from your collected data. But, I don't know what it is doing with the actual data (the tracks/sonar recordings). I don't know if it stores those temporarily for a while, and deletes them eventually, or what happens with that.
Personally, I'd be saving ALL of my Humminbird Tracks and Sonar Recordings, and keeping them well organized on my computer.
I don't own an ONIX, and do all my AutoChart processing through the PC software program. However, even if I did have an ONIX unit, I would still want to save all those track files and sonar recordings. That way, if things go haywire down the road with the map you've created on the fly with your ONIX, you could still process all those data files with the PC program.
AUTOCHART MANUALS
Here are several AutoChart manuals which were published by Humminbird.
AutoChart - Software Installation Guide
Instructions on how to install the AutoChart PC Software.
AutoChart - Getting Started Guide
This is sort of a quick-start guide. Helpful to go through the tutorial steps to get started.
Installation & Operations Guide (AutoChart - Installation and Operations Guide)
This is the primary manual for AutoChart. It goes more in depth into functions and features of the program.
ZeroLines SD Card - Manual for Using in Your Depthfinder
This is a manual that contains information about changes you can make on your ZeroLines custom map, on AutoChart compatible Humminbird units.
ZeroLines SD Card - ONIX & Ion Manual
This is a manual for those of you with a Humminbird ONIX or Ion, and contains information on the additional features of those units.
ZeroLines SD Card - Warning, Do Not Delete Folders
Just a fair warning, do not delete the LkMaster, AC, or SI folders on the ZeroLines SD Card.
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AutoChart Tutorials
Here are several step-by-step tutorials I put together to hopefully help with learning the program.
Autochart: How to Import Data & Create a Map
Autochart Tutorial: How to Remove/Edit Bad Data Points
Autochart Tutorial: How to Create Custom Shoreline Data (From Humminbird website)
AutoChart: How to Create a Custom Shoreline (Step-by-Step)
AutoChart: How to Delete Your Map and Start Over
Humminbird Tutorials
Autochart: How to Make Sonar Recordings on your Humminbird
Autochart: How to Save and Export Humminbird Tracks on Your Humminbird Unit
Really nice Camo!!
Thanks Camo! I have the autochart pro on my PC and an onix. Have not got a chance to use either till weather gets warmer!
No problem guys. I hope to post many more in the near future. If you have requests for the next tutorial, let me know!
A couple future ones I hope to put together are: file organization, how to create/edit shoreline data, and how to use a local copy of the zerolines sd card so you don't have to have the card in your computer to create maps.
Cheers!
do any of you guys know if there is a way to remove all previous recordings that have been updated to zero lines card. essentially restarting with a clean slate without uninstalling the program and reinstalling.
The recordings, or the map? Those are two separate things. The recordings, I wouldn't delete. Rather, cut and paste them onto your computer.
The map, yes you can delete it and start from scratch also. Simply rename the AC folder, to AC1. Create a new AC folder, and you can start a new map from scratch.
I have all my recordings backed up in a separate folder on my computer. Really just want to restart with a new map to start from scratch again.
Yes, it works for sure works in the 798ci HD. But, very important. You have to go to the menu on the unit and change the chart from default to AC. That little tip is courtesy of Camohunter. He is the man when it comes to Auto Chart.
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Originally Posted by CamoHunter
Sweet tutorials! Love the step by step. Several of my questions were answered. Keep up the good work. Looking forward to the how to create shoreline data tutorial.
:thumb up2: WTG CamoHunter......I think you just advanced the understanding a LOT.
Do not lose your activation code!!!! I bought a new computer I can't find my activation code call hummingbird they say I need to buy the program again. I have the receipt. This is a $250 program not a $29 program. You have to be kidding me you cannot register this program either!!!!!!! Tell me this is a joke!!!!
mike
Man I read a look at some of this stuff.....I get way over my head and confused. Tough on us old farts that didn't grow up with all this technology.
I long for the old days when this was considered high tech:
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Well....You figured out how to post that PIC, so your not doing too bad .... Is that a Daisy BB Gun?Quote:
Originally Posted by DA TOAD
You can register AutoChart PC Program on MyHumminbird just like you do units. That way when or if they make updates to the program you can download them.Quote:
Originally Posted by mikesled1
AWESOME Job CamoHunter. I'm also going to add these links to the First Post on this Thread. Mind if I share to AutoChart Group? I think I can make JPG Images of them or Share Links for sure. These are excellent documents :bows::beers::bows:
Doug the links will work much better for sharing.....Quote:
Originally Posted by Doug Vahrenberg
First Post in this thread has the links. I was thinking the AutoChart Group Free forum : Auto Chart User Group where it is only about AutoChart the Picture Files and including links may help over there since it's all AutoChart Information.Quote:
Originally Posted by fishfood
Looks Like CamoHunter has already posted on there. That saves alot of time! Thanks CamoHunter YOUR AWESOME!
No problem guys! You're very kind! Doug, a couple reasons why I'm using pdf files instead of posting a bunch of pictures is: 1.) If I need to make corrections or change something, I don't have to change a bunch of pictures. I can just edit the original pdf file, upload it, and change the link to the new file. 2.) It would take up MANY pages with pictures, versus a single pdf where it's all contained together. If someone wants, it is easy for them to download and print.
Awesome Work and full understand!
Gotcha!!Quote:
Originally Posted by Doug Vahrenberg
Had time to do a couple more last night.
AutoChart: How to Create a Custom Shoreline(Step-by-Step)
AutoChart: How to Delete Your Map and Start Over
I also posted the links on my original post of linked tutorials, post #169 here.
I'm also adding them to Post #1 on this thread. If you share them here CamoHunter I'll continue to add them to the original post to help those just beginning with AutoCharts.
AWESOME Work!
Camo, thanks for the great work :bows:
Would I be able to save data to a micro sd in my Helix 5 Si, save to the computer, then add to AutoChart at a later date? Needed to upgrade and this years budget would only allow room for a Helix.
Yes ..... The AutoChart is a program that runs on the PC. You can process the files from the unit at any time.....The only problem I see is that the Helix only has 1 card slot ..... If you have a mapping card, you will have trouble viewing the mapping and recording at the same time.Quote:
Originally Posted by Itsmeje816
Thanks Doug and Camohunter
Went out on the weekend and got some time on the chart program and got a couple of areas recorded and transfered. Now I just have to figure outhow to post some pictures as I get more time in and better at mapping
Bill
You can take a screen capture of your computer screen Alt+PrtSc and then save as a JPG File and share the Screen capture here
Water Level
In the AutoChart Operations Guide it says “When you startyour mapping for the day, it is important to note if the water level is higheror lower than usual. For Example, if you know the lake is down 3 feet, you willenter the amount when you import the files to AutoChart PC.
So if I want to create a custom LakeMaster map for a portion of a lake and it takes a few yearsand several trips to create track or sonar logs, it sounds like it would bebest to determine a baseline or control elevation before I go out the firsttime, is this correct? And then every time I go out I should note whether the waterlevel is higher or lower than the control elevation.
If you are taking an elevation reading when you go out to doAutoChart tracks or sonar logs, how are you doing it? Are you estimating the elevationchange, using a GPS unit, or a phone app to get the current elevation? Whatwould be the best way to get a reading?
I’m assuming it is important to be pretty accurate when overtime you may have collected several tracks that may overlay on top of eachother when creating your custom LakeMaster map.
Thanks, Brian
Brian, it sounds like you have a pretty good handle on it. Yes, you'll want to establish a baseline elevation, and note whether it is higher or lower on each day your record depth data.
Many reservoirs have an online streamgage, where you can look up the daily lake level readings. Many lakes/ponds do not have this. Sometimes those will have a physical water level measurement that you can check.
For those bodies of water that do not have any of the above, find a flat area of the lake bottom where you can go to, and record the boat depth for most trips. Using a flat bottom area, you could note the depth each trip to the lake.
Thanks, I like the suggestion to find a flat area of the lake bottom. I will give it a try.
By the way CamoHunter, I still have not been able to get out to the pond to do some recordings to try to put in my custom shoreline, maybe this weekend.
Brian
No problem Brian. I 'created' a fake set of data points and imported that data just to see if things would work correctly with the custom shoreline we created. Here's an example of what it should sort of look like when you import depth data into your custom shoreline.
BEFORE:
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AFTER:
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