Matt Herren DQ’ed

I marshalled with Matt on the Lanier tournament a few years back, good dude and funny as hell. I wish him luck in his next endeavor!

He quit BASS and going strictly NPFL.

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Originally Posted by Mark Perry

Why didn't they just fine him like they did the Open angler?

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great point ! Bass is imploding before our eyes fellers

Matt has 17 years as an elite and zero wins. I may be in the minority but Matt leaving is no different than most guys in the mass MLF exodus. Lots of guys left for MLF that were just getting by.

There will never be a “The Cast” episode on guys who have 20 years on tour but don’t win.


Note: I’m a fan of bass fishing. This is in line with the same assessment I would give to a football player.

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Originally Posted by Mark Perry

Why didn't they just fine him like they did the Open angler?

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My understanding is that BASS is saying that the Opens angler didn’t gain an advantage in the tournament from the info. Also, the Elite punishment is much more clear. A-J : dq’d automatically. Opens violation: multiple choice punishments.

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Originally Posted by Mark Perry

Isn't also an Elite anglers job not to get the same infraction in back to back years on the same spot and same body of water and not accumulate a pile of penalties in a year?


There has to be more consistency in enforcement at some point.

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that’s good preaching there ! Spot on

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Originally Posted by Rebel1

So, we don't believe they are sharing info prior to the tournament? :roll:

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It's obvious that you still don't understand the rule.

I can’t wait to hear Matt’s side , and he won’t have to hold back now ! He do well at NPFL and probaly enjoy it way more !

Matt Herren quits bass.

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Originally Posted by RangerBob52O

My understanding is that BASS is saying that the Opens angler didn’t gain an advantage in the tournament from the info. Also, the Elite punishment is much more clear. A-J : dq’d automatically. Opens violation: multiple choice punishments.

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What about the Open angler that got DQ'd? What did he do?

There were several times last year that Elite anglers complained about rule breaking and requested stiffer penalties. In the first tournament this year, BASS hands down a dq and the angler receiving the penalty quits. Was Herren one of the anglers calling for more discipline? As far as the Open's angler, he probably should have been given a dq, but different league / tournament director.

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Originally Posted by crab bass

Another DQ for no info on elite series so why no DQ on the opens guy?

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He also just Quit the elites

Obviously he knew he did something wrong by not reporting his son had gave him information where the tournament the week before was won. I hate it for him but it sounds like they are enforcing the rules. Does anyone know if this is the creek his friend Bill Lowen won the tournament in?

What a mess Bass started out with :thumbsdown1:
Mercer scolding Mckinney during the halftime show should send a message :laugh:

Rumors are a guy name Scott is next ! Guess we will see soon

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Originally Posted by badboyjigs

Rumors are a guy name Scott is next ! Guess we will see soon

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Heard something real similar....

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Originally Posted by Mark Perry

What about the Open angler that got DQ'd? What did he do?

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I haven’t seen a really good explanation of what the opens guy did. Josh Herren coming forward on here and laying out exactly what happened makes Matt’s case clear. But, regardless of what happened on the Opens level it’s clear that they had more leeway to be easier on him than the cut and dried elites rules.

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Originally Posted by badboyjigs

Rumors are a guy name Scott is next ! Guess we will see soon

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Martin or canterbury?

I find it odd the first thing he did was cut the BASS stickers off the wrap instead of taking the FFS off. I wonder if his sponsors will make him work the Classic

The opens angler should have been DQ. Herron should have reported the instance before the polygraph end of story.

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Originally Posted by donjuan07

The opens angler should have been DQ. Herron should have reported the instance before the polygraph end of story.

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And the serial offender banned

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Originally Posted by rb

And the serial offender banned

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I agree!

BASS is being run by inexperienced children

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Originally Posted by krindgen

BASS is being run by inexperienced children

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100%. At some point the organization is gonna have to start listening to the anglers input bc these people clearly don’t know how to operate a business. The BBC experts will come along shortly and say they’re “running a business and aren’t a charity organization”. Maybe that’s true, but they’re not very good at it, like at all.

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Originally Posted by krindgen

BASS is being run by inexperienced children

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I've been looking for who to point the finger at but I'm not sure who? :laugh:

He was irrelevant anyway. Technology passed him by so this is a great excuse to hang it up and go to the (mostly) technically challenged tour.

I wonder how Ray Scott would have handled a situation like this?

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Originally Posted by Meadows

100%. At some point the organization is gonna have to start listening to the anglers input bc these people clearly don’t know how to operate a business. The BBC experts will come along shortly and say they’re “running a business and aren’t a charity organization”. Maybe that’s true, but they’re not very good at it, like at all.

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What?:laugh:

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Originally Posted by WarEagle24

I wonder how Ray Scott would have handled a situation like this?

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Yeah me to :laugh: Good or bad :laugh:

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Originally Posted by dreese

He was irrelevant anyway. Technology passed him by so this is a great excuse to hang it up and go to the (mostly) technically challenged tour.

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100% nailed it. He's not had a realistic chance at a win in a long time and his crying last season emphasized that.

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Originally Posted by clemsontigers2020

It is your job as an elite angler to police what comes out of peoples mouths. especially a family member

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Are you serious with this comment or sarcasm?

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Originally Posted by skeeterator

100% nailed it. He's not had a realistic chance at a win in a long time and his crying last season emphasized that.

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Still doesn't change the fact of inconsistent rulings across the board.

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Originally Posted by BillsFan

Still doesn't change the fact of inconsistent rulings across the board.

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100% agree. That’s really the much larger problem.

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Originally Posted by BillsFan

Still doesn't change the fact of inconsistent rulings across the board.

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This is a new season is it not, first event of the year and last season people wanted rules followed so here we are. So much bs last year that BASS is obviously trying to clean up and now people upset about it. You can't make this shit up. Matt's own kid admitted here he told him where a tournament was just won on the st John's, pretty cut and dry he should have self reported. Each of the dudes running idle zones got penalized equally by losing time right? Where's the problem?

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Originally Posted by skeeterator

This is a new season is it not, first event of the year and last season people wanted rules followed so here we are. So much bs last year that BASS is obviously trying to clean up and now people upset about it. You can't make this shit up. Matt's own kid admitted here he told him where a tournament was just won on the st John's, pretty cut and dry he should have self reported. Each of the dudes running idle zones got penalized equally by losing time right? Where's the problem?

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Bottom line is all of em better be raising an eyebrow :laugh:

Preach Skeet Preach

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Originally Posted by skeeterator

This is a new season is it not, first event of the year and last season people wanted rules followed so here we are. So much bs last year that BASS is obviously trying to clean up and now people upset about it. You can't make this shit up. Matt's own kid admitted here he told him where a tournament was just won on the st John's, pretty cut and dry he should have self reported. Each of the dudes running idle zones got penalized equally by losing time right? Where's the problem?

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How do you feel about the way BASS should handle repeat offenders? I am all for them enforcing rules but if some guys are not learning any lessons what is the correct step to take to fix those guys and the grey area guys?

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Originally Posted by donjuan07

The opens angler should have been DQ. Herron should have reported the instance before the polygraph end of story.

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Yes he should have, but honestly probably didn’t even think about it.

However, he should have and it should have not been an issue

B.A.S.S. will go on with or without him for sure, and I think there is a mix between some b.s. going on and the fact that these guys don’t want to learn FFS, and that’s fine. Matt will probably be better off where they don’t allow it and if B.A.S.S. continues to allow it they will have plenty of guys coming up that will want his spot. None of this will change until guys speak out. They say they are afraid of BASS and maybe so or is it that they all could flunk a lie detector test at some point? I don’t know the answer but it needs to get resolved.

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Originally Posted by Meadows

100%. At some point the organization is gonna have to start listening to the anglers input bc these people clearly don’t know how to operate a business. The BBC experts will come along shortly and say they’re “running a business and aren’t a charity organization”. Maybe that’s true, but they’re not very good at it, like at all.

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Don't know how to run a business, listening to anyone? I thought just fire everyone, they don't know what they are doing.