Navionics charting questions - need help with charting?

Sonar charts using the SonarPhone T-Box....so i got this setup from Navionics to try out and never got a chance to put it on my other boat. If i understand it correctly i download the app on phone or tablet, go out on boat and record data and it will send it to the phone/tablet. My question is, do you have to have cell service for this to work? Also does this info get uploaded for sonar charts?? the places i fish are spotty at best for service. Looking to get it installed on this boat and give it a try.

You need the app, you link you're phone-tablet to you're Gen-3 with the wifi connection. You will be prompt to put a password, by default I think it's: 12345; then once they are link you open you're Navionics app and you boat.

You don't need cell coverage. I chart a lake last year that is accessible only by floatplane so there is no cell up there.
To upload you're log, once you got signal or using you're wifi at home you just update you're Navionics app.

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Sonar charts using the SonarPhone T-Box....so i got this setup from Navionics to try out and never got a chance to put it on my other boat. If i understand it correctly i download the app on phone or tablet, go out on boat and record data and it will send it to the phone/tablet. My question is, do you have to have cell service for this to work? Also does this info get uploaded for sonar charts?? the places i fish are spotty at best for service. Looking to get it installed on this boat and give it a try.

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You will need two Apps on your mobile device. There is an iOS app and an Android app, I use both.
Navionics Boating HD and Sonarphone . The Sonarphone App is free.

The Sonarphone is a Wifi transducer. You pair the Sonarphone to the mobile device and open the Navionics Boating app and then start Sonar Charts Live to create the contour mapping in real time on your device.

If you have an iPad without GPS, you will need a GPS antenna also so you will have depth and location to position the contour lines.
I have a 65 channel Bluetooth GPS antenna for use when I do Sonar Charts Live with any of the 6 devices I have setup for Sonar Charts Live and the Sonarphone. The antenna brand is Dual. I put that above the Sonarphone transducer so the depth and location is at the same place to have the best contour accuracy.

After you do the Sonar Charts Live recording and are in a Wifi internet area, your device will automatically upload the data to the Navionics Sonar Charts server. It will be added to the Sonar Charts program and shared.

You can turn off the sharing feature and you will just have the mapping on your device and not shared. Your Sonar Charts Live data will be overlayed on the Navionics Boating HD app. You can choose to display or not display the Live data.

You can also select to be notified that your data has been added to the Sonar Charts program and then you can do a manual update rather than an automatic update.

Just like using a Navionics+ card in your Lowrance, the Boating HD App has both map layers that you can choose which one to view.

Andre, i dont have the Gen 3 units and no lowrance wifi hub. It would be strictly to phone or tablet. My tablet is a wifi only (samsung/android).

Next question, do you have a choice of where it will store the data, on phone memory or phone external sd card?? Reason, phone is older and is pretty much maxed out on internal storage space but do have sd card in said phone. That would be the only issue with phone, tablet would be no problem as i got plenty of space on it.

I'm using a older Iphone and and a quite full Ipad-2 and I got no choice on where to store data but from what I heard from Navionics people that it doesn't take much space; I don't have a specific answer but I would recommend that you sent a e-mail to: Navionics Help <help@navionics.com

I just bought a hotmaps Platnum South chip last week at BPS, updated it before first use and I do not have any aerial photo overlay around Toledo Bend on either of my Gen 3 9's as was observed earlier in this thread by others, at least one month ago. Is anyone out there at Navionics awake and trying to fix this issue or going to put out some info on how to set up to get the info to work off the chip? I am very disappointed at this point with my new chip and the free unlimited updates. could use some help from Navionics if anyone is out
there.

I spoke with them at length yesterday and they are aware of some issues and are actively working on it at this moment. There are always occasional glitches and gremlins when dealing with this type of data...so be aware and be patient, work in process to resolve.
Tommy
Prostaff Lowrance/Navico
Prostaff Marine Specialist/Navionics

Thank for the update Tommy.....

Thanks Tommy for the update. We really appreciate your efforts to resolve this as well as many other issues but sometimes it really is hard to tell if navico and lowrance are listening to their customers. The frustrating thing about this issue is that this problem was identified in this forum more than a month ago and it is still not fixed. I am also disappointed and frustrated that I now have several good friends and former Lowrance users that are mapping parts of Toledo Bend everyday with their Garmin units and transducers, and not needing to wifi, internet, up load or down load data to some mothership and we are still unable to do this straight forward operation on what are suppose to be the best Units on the market. Is anyone at Lowrance aware of how far behind they are relative to this critical capability? I think you talk to both Navionics and Lowrance. Light a fire if you can on this one or they are going to lose more customers to Garmin. Pm me if you have time to talk about this.

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I am also disappointed and frustrated that I now have several good friends and former Lowrance users that are mapping parts of Toledo Bend everyday with their Garmin units and transducers, and not needing to wifi, internet, up load or down load data to some mothership and we are still unable to do this straight forward operation on what are suppose to be the best Units on the market. Is anyone at Lowrance aware of how far behind they are relative to this critical capability? I think you talk to both Navionics and Lowrance. Light a fire if you can on this one or they are going to lose more customers to Garmin. Pm me if you have time to talk about this.

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Navionics does have Sonar Charts Live which works very well so I don't think you can blame them on that. But I do agree. Lowrance really needs a built in live mapping option. Both Hummingbird and Garmin have it. It is an extremely useful tool.

I did some across the platform multiple software, multiple units vs multiple mapping areas testing yesterday and forwarded those results including specific Lat/Lon examples to my Managers. They responded this morning with positive comments and informed that this glitch is recognized and there are several global tech departments working as we speak. What I have found that on only a few randomly selected lakes, ( I cannot check 10K lakes :), the map is perfect and then you can move 50 feet and even though it still shows the current up to date info, sonar charts etc., some of the features have issues. Of note is that the glitch does not seem to affect the contour data or interfere with the actual mapping which is good, at least on what I found. That is my personal observation and I cannot consistently make that happen across all maps. A weird inconsistent glitch for sure which I would guess just makes it more difficult to pin down for all lakes. I am not their tech guy, so that is just my impression. I can say for sure that they have been very responsive and proactive so I expect it will be corrected just as quickly as possible.
Tommy
Prostaff Lowrance/Navico
Prostaff Marine Specialist/Navionics

Hey Guys! I still get asked by some how to take advantage of Navionics SonarChart layer and activate it on your Lowrance, Raymarine and Humminbird units. Here's a video I did alongside Paul Michele from Navionics and Bassmaster Elite Series Pro Seth Feider demonstrating the ease of activating SonarCharts on your units. Check it out.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g6yC70y4upk

I just got a new 2016 skeeter LE and it has gen 3 12 and 9 graphs. My question is do I need to buy new navionics mapping cards or is there a way for me to convert
hot maps premium south to a micro SD?
SD/PREM S4
VOl 120
thanks

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I just got a new 2016 skeeter LE and it has gen 3 12 and 9 graphs. My question is do I need to buy new navionics mapping cards or is there a way for me to convert
hot maps premium south to a micro SD?
SD/PREM S4
VOl 120
thanks

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No, you cannot copy the data.

random question here if I have a local small lake that doesn't have mapping for It period. if I log sonar charts on the entire lake and submit them to navionics I assume they will build a map chart for the lake off of the data? new to the sonar charts

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Originally Posted by beck125

random question here if I have a local small lake that doesn't have mapping for It period. if I log sonar charts on the entire lake and submit them to navionics I assume they will build a map chart for the lake off of the data? new to the sonar charts

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I I was wondering that, would love to map out my local lake that doesn't even show up on navionics

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Originally Posted by beck125

random question here if I have a local small lake that doesn't have mapping for It period. if I log sonar charts on the entire lake and submit them to navionics I assume they will build a map chart for the lake off of the data? new to the sonar charts

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With the mobile app and your WiFi creating the Sonar Charts Live contours, that data will automatically upload to Navionics when you are in a WiFi area. If the body of water has no shoreline (zero line) or if it does and some of your recordings are shown on land, Navionics will draw a new shoreline to apply all your data. Processing the data to create Sonar Charts takes longer when they have to redraw or create the zero line.

Here's an example of one I did with my wife over the course of the day. Worked great and the results prove it!


http://i63.tinypic.com/34t6g4k.png


http://i67.tinypic.com/xp1rsw.png

This is a lake I did with Humminbird sonar logs that had no outline--same waypoint:

http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/f...psc676a94c.png

http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/f...ps15448dbf.jpg

This lake had a zero line in Navionics data base but was not correct, some of my logs were shown on land. They re-drew the zero line to apply all my data.

http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/f...ps72af4089.png

http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/f...ps9d5f2612.png

You can tell also that a body of water has been corrected since they add docks like in Josh's blue highlighted example.

You can also tell that others are using your data when you see Community edits added:

http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/f...psfepeuirc.png

Next question after updating my gen 2 10 and my new platinum card wich took 14 hrs to update I am beyond disappointed in it. I ordered a platinum card just based on the 3d option and sonar charts. I have all of it working except the 3d... photo overlay works but it's literally just a photo with no geographical detail or cartography if that makes sense . It is also only showing shading on shallow humps and drops with no help from the overlay... am Imissing something here ? The view goes to 3d but the picture is still generic flat like a normal set premium map ...

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Next question after updating my gen 2 10 and my new platinum card wich took 14 hrs to update I am beyond disappointed in it. I ordered a platinum card just based on the 3d option and sonar charts. I have all of it working except the 3d... photo overlay works but it's literally just a photo with no geographical detail or cartography if that makes sense . It is also only showing shading on shallow humps and drops with no help from the overlay... am Imissing something here ? The view goes to 3d but the picture is still generic flat like a normal set premium map ...

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To use 3D, you have to use the Bird's Eye view and adjust the exaggeration to get the contour look.

Yes Photos are just that. Helpful when offshore entering a harbor.

When you do an update, that just does Nautical Charts, and also Sonar Charts and Community Edits if you choose those. The Platinum features are permanent.

Definitely when loaded all the NauticalChart, SonarChart and Community Edits all at the same time on a 16gb Platinum card, it's going to be a hefty download. Especially if you're internet is a bit spotty, not saying it is but the only time I've experienced download times anywhere close to those it was when I was on a public wifi or spotty signal in more remote areas.

Wayne hit everything on the head per usual. Thanks Wayne.

ok I got that figured out now on to sonar logs to upload to navionics, do I have to go into settings to log sonar or does it automatically save the data and information if it is creating a trail to begin with? im being told multiple things here

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ok I got that figured out now on to sonar logs to upload to navionics, do I have to go into settings to log sonar or does it automatically save the data and information if it is creating a trail to begin with? im being told multiple things here

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Those that do it can explain it better, but you cannot just record sonar logs with a Lowrance to participate in the Navionics Sonar Charts program. Lowrance won't allow the processing of their data.
Some have stated you can get around that by uploading saved Trails and get those processed by Sonar Charts.

The only other way is via Lowrance Wifi to the Navionics Mobile App and the Mobile App sends the data to Navionics when your device gets a Wifi connection to the internet.

I run Lowrance and log SonarCharts all the regular.

Here's how to straight from Navionics.

http://www.navionics.com/plotter-tutorial/lowrance

If I buy a Hot Maps platinum card that came out of a Hummingbird unit, can I use the same card in a Lowrance HDS unit?

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If I buy a Hot Maps platinum card that came out of a Hummingbird unit, can I use the same card in a Lowrance HDS unit?

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Yes, if the card size will fit your Lowrance. A version 6 card will be microSD with a SD adapter. OHIO would be E6.

If your HDS has a SD size reader, any issue will work. E, E2, E3, E4, E5, or E6.

Wayne is always spot on. One thing though, if you originally purchased your Navionics card with a HB bundle, the card may be HB exclusive. As a general rule, Navionics cards work in almost all units no matter what but in some instances bundled packages may be exclusive to that chart plotter.

My friend is having problems getting any map data to show on his HDS-10 gen 2 with a new platinum east card. He's also running the latest update. He lives far away from me so I've been trying to help him what to do on the phone but it's not helping. Is there a setting were missing somewhere that will show the lakes? He did select Navionics when he inserted the card too.

Thanks,
Charlie

Maybe a stupid question: did he unlock the sd card?

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Wayne is always spot on. One thing though, if you originally purchased your Navionics card with a HB bundle, the card may be HB exclusive. As a general rule, Navionics cards work in almost all units no matter what but in some instances bundled packages may be exclusive to that chart plotter.

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TRUE Story Josh - I confirmed this W/ HB some time ago.


:thumb up2:

I think a buddy of mine said the same is true W/ LOW units to other brands.

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Maybe a stupid question: did he unlock the sd card?

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Yep he tried it both ways. I think this is for when you doing the freshest data update on the card though.

Charlie

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Originally Posted by JDFishing

I run Lowrance and log SonarCharts all the regular.

Here's how to straight from Navionics.

http://www.navionics.com/plotter-tutorial/lowrance

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Just came across and checked this link. GREAT STUFF RIGHT THERE! Big thanks to Josh. :thumb up2:

I am currently at lake fork and I can not get the map card to show the creeks nor does it show the depth. Just shows contour lines. I can just drive up a creek and look at bump with out driving over them to see what the depth it. May be a bump may be a deep spot. I have hds gen 2 I think this is a hot map. I have a platnium but it shows nothing for fork. No clue. I've down loaded it on it 3 times

I am having trouble with the sonar live on my iPad. I connect to my unit but get "sounder not connected". I have case #00267561 with Navionics but seem to not be able to help. At least I've heard nothing from them in a week now. My last email response from Technical Support after I provided them with screen shots they requested was "I have received email. I'll investigate on it and I'll be back to you soon."

Anyone else having this issue?

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I am having trouble with the sonar live on my iPad. I connect to my unit but get "sounder not connected". I have case #00267561 with Navionics but seem to not be able to help. At least I've heard nothing from them in a week now. My last email response from Technical Support after I provided them with screen shots they requested was "I have received email. I'll investigate on it and I'll be back to you soon."

Anyone else having this issue?

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I sent an e-mail to somebody; you should have an update soon.
Are you using a Gen-3?
Is it a intermittent problem or you just can't connect (link) you're IPad to the unit?
I use my IPad and my Gen-3 all the time w/o any problem

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Originally Posted by wallyandre

I sent an e-mail to somebody; you should have an update soon.
Are you using a Gen-3?
Is it a intermittent problem or you just can't connect (link) you're IPad to the unit?
I use my IPad and my Gen-3 all the time w/o any problem

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Thank you, Wallyandre. Yes, I have a Gen3. Was never able to get it to work. It wouldn't be a big deal but I paid the $50 for the service and want to use it.

You can connect you're IPad with the Gen3? If so it's the app that doesn't link with the Gen3? I'm not sure I really understand. Can you explain step by step what you're doing?

By the way you're case is under review

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Originally Posted by wallyandre

You can connect you're IPad with the Gen3? If so it's the app that doesn't link with the Gen3? I'm not sure I really understand. Can you explain step by step what you're doing?

By the way you're case is under review

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Yes can connect my iPad with the Ge3. No, the app doesn't link. I get "sonar not connected".

Step by step on iPad
Settings>>WiFi>>Select Gen3xxxxx(name of plotter)
Connected to Plotter
Open Navionics app
Look to verify SonarChart Live is on, but it's not connected