***Lowrance Structure Scan and Down Scan images from the past***

I went out again today and went to a few different places. Man, the chit you can find with this imaging. http://www.bassboatcentral.com/boardstuff2/beers.gif And did i forget to mention the gas you burn doing it. http://www.bassboatcentral.com/smileys/Laugh.gif

All these were taken in the Red River in Alexandria.

This is some bulkhead at the port on the Red River.
http://i266.photobucket.com/albums/i...g?t=1259367422
http://i266.photobucket.com/albums/i...g?t=1259367226


Not sure what's this but some big as pipe supports. I guess they tie the barges up to it during loading/unloading. In both pics you can see the trees and trash caught up in them.
http://i266.photobucket.com/albums/i...g?t=1259367610
http://i266.photobucket.com/albums/i...g?t=1259367516
http://i266.photobucket.com/albums/i...g?t=1259367562


Not sure what these are. Either big trees or pipe. First pic is it on the left side of boat and second as i was back tracking i got on top of it.
http://i266.photobucket.com/albums/i...g?t=1259367730
http://i266.photobucket.com/albums/i...g?t=1259367771

Big Ass Tree
http://i266.photobucket.com/albums/i...g?t=1259367818

I was passing under a railroad bridge with concrete piles/supports with a bunch of trees caught up inbetween them.
http://i266.photobucket.com/albums/i...g?t=1259367971

Just abunch of bait fish and fish.
http://i266.photobucket.com/albums/i...g?t=1259368097

Did you take the pictures of the structure as you pulled up to it then took the SS snapshot? If so you have the transducer backwards or need to make an adjustment in the setup menu. What is on the right side is the photos is on the left in the snapshots.

I took the pics after i passed them. After looking on the screen i figured i needed to take the regular photo just so someone can see what i was passing by. The units are set up correctly. http://www.bassboatcentral.com/smileys/wink.gif

Thanks for posting the pics Jeremy! http://xs-s.com/zf/images/smile/emthup.gif Those look awesome,and i know what to expect when i buy mine. I can tell your very happy with it. Were those pics taken with useing mainly the auto settings or manual settings on sensitivity and range??The reason i ask is on my unit i pretty much just let it do all the adjusting,and i have no problem seeing a 1/16th oz crappie jig 40' deep so i think it does a pretty decent job by itself.Some of the older units with less power that i owned i had to crank the sensitivity up to get them to show that little jig. http://xs-s.com/zf/images/smile/emthup.gif http://xs-s.com/zf/images/smile/emthup.gif

I'm happy with it and of course, it's my first imaging unit so can complain. http://www.bassboatcentral.com/smileys/Laugh.gif For the SS settings, i've been manually setting them myself as i see needed. For the 2d i do the same, manually and adjust as needed. Right now the water in the river is muddy as hell and has junk floating around. I was fishing not long ago at a lake and jigging a spoon and it showed up very well. This coming week i will be doing some perch fishing with jig poles. I was able to see the fish take the jig on my 25C so i'm wanting to watch it on the 7.

man I was on the fence about spending this $$ when I have good units now but with all these pics I'm sold I'm going to have to bite the bullet

Hi all,

Here are a few screen shots for you from today. The bait fish was loaded on wind blown points today, but the bass just didn't seem to be schooled on there. Even so the weather was beautiful.

This first shot did have a small group of larger fish just beneath the baitfish.
http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f1...hots/shot4.png

This one was as I headed up a ledge. Big ball of baitfish.
http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f1...ots/shot11.png

Next is just how it can detail a laydown totally submerged. It appears on both side and downscan.
http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f1...hots/shot7.png

And some more balls of baitfish.
http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f1...hots/shot1.png

And possibly a school of crappie since it seems to have a stronger return than others.
http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f1...hots/shot9.png

And a few more
http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f1...hots/shot5.png
http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f1...hots/shot6.png
Hope you enjoy them and feel free to ask questions.


Modified by jaystein21x at 7:42 PM 11/28/2009

Looking good Jason. Lots of bait fish.

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It's only money Kirk!!!

John.

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Overlay.... I am not even sure I know what it is supposed to do... if you have or get these shots sure would appreciate knowing what I am supposed to be looking for. Thanks

Overlay is when it puts the downscan image on top of the 2d sonar in the sonar window. Take a look at Jason's 2d sonar pics. You can see that golden brown tint. That is the overlay. You can turn it on in the SS menu.

Here are my first screen shots on my maiden LSS-1 voyage. The weather was gale winds, so the boat was really bouncing yet the pictures came out great!

These are on Lake Washington in Seattle, mostly in 50 foot of water...

Concrete footings on I-90 Bridge:
http://i182.photobucket.com/albums/x...hots/shot8.png

Cable Crossing:
http://i182.photobucket.com/albums/x...hots/shot7.png

Sunken Sailboat with mast coming straight up:
http://i182.photobucket.com/albums/x...hots/shot6.png

Crane boom stuck in bottom:
http://i182.photobucket.com/albums/x...hots/shot4.png

Unknown steel girders:
http://i182.photobucket.com/albums/x...ots/shot15.png

More unknown steel girders:
http://i182.photobucket.com/albums/x...ots/shot14.png

Sunken bridge steel:
http://i182.photobucket.com/albums/x...ots/shot13.png

More sunken bridge steel:
http://i182.photobucket.com/albums/x...ots/shot12.png

Still more sunken bridge steel:
http://i182.photobucket.com/albums/x...ots/shot11.png

Crazy steel:
http://i182.photobucket.com/albums/x...ots/shot10.png

Not bad clarity for water so rough the waves were soaking me and the boat was bouncing so much it was impossible to drive in a straight line!

Does anyone have some log files.
Should you mount the transducer on the jackplate or drill holes and mount it lower.
Hate to drill in my new fiberglass boat.

That will be up to you. I thinkg the few i seen on here have it mounted on teh jp.

id like to see some more pics of the 455 khz on hb the 800 is very dark and appears the same with the low intrested in seeing the difference with low .. on the hb i always ran the 400 ..
I would think that the images out farther would come in better once on top the 800 would be clearer

You should only have to select the "flip right/left" option one time. It will remain selected until you unselect it.

I have an LSS-1 question?? Why does the same image of a tree show up on the down scan and both sides of the side scan??

If the side scan beam is angled down towards the bottom at a 45 degree angle (approx.) why would it display on both sides??

John.

Ps. LSS-1 seems to work fine in depper water but not very well in shallow or very weedy areas less then 10-15 feet deep.

Stupid question but here goes.... This can only be added to the HD units right? Cannot add to my LMS-520 can I?

That is correct the structure scan feature only works with the HDS units.

Here are a few more shot i took yesterday before i got sick and had to head to the house. http://www.bassboatcentral.com/smileys/Laugh.gif

We had some high turbulant water the past few months on the river. This pic show the washboard effect on the river bottom.
http://i266.photobucket.com/albums/i...g?t=1259940149

Some more under water tree pics.
http://i266.photobucket.com/albums/i...g?t=1259940342
http://i266.photobucket.com/albums/i...g?t=1259940387

These are just regular fish pics

2D Sonar at 200kHz
http://i266.photobucket.com/albums/i...g?t=1259940532

The next two are with 2D sonar at 83kHz
The down scan window shows a few fish archs also. http://www.bassboatcentral.com/smileys/thumbsup2.gif
http://i266.photobucket.com/albums/i...g?t=1259940642
http://i266.photobucket.com/albums/i...g?t=1259940680


Modified by fishin couillon at 7:47 PM 12/17/2009

NICE http://www.bassboatcentral.com/smileys/thumbsup2.gif http://www.bassboatcentral.com/smileys/thumbsup2.gif

Hello friends, Please I need help.
I am looking for long time a frame unit scan, I contacted several stores and none have it in stock.
Where you have bought, or where can I buy online in stock?
Thank you.

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I am looking for long time a frame unit scan, I contacted several stores and none have it in stock.
Where you have bought, or where can I buy online in stock?
Thank you.

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I have only 1 Lowrance Structure Scan left until mid-December and I have a quote right now on it with an HDS10 so I am waiting to hear back from the customer. Here is a link for another BBC sponsor that has the Lowrance Structrure Scans. They may be able to help you.

Best of luck !

Brian

http://www.bbcboards.net...k-now

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Hello angle557
Thank you for your quick response.
If your client does not want it to end, please let me know, I am interested in immediate purchase.
Thank you

Here's a shot I captured the other day with my HDS-7 that I have no idea what it is.

http://i796.photobucket.com/albums/y...r20I/shot7.png

John.

Just guessing it kinda looks like an old dam, where the water flows over. Very clean lines for it to be natural. Looks more man made.

http://www.bassboatcentral.com/smileys/eek.gif That's a pretty good screen shot, what ever it is. Nice. http://www.bassboatcentral.com/smileys/thumbsup2.gif Time to put the scuba gear on and find out. http://www.bassboatcentral.com/smileys/Laugh.gif

Maybe when the water warms a bit!!

John.

Punto.... Why would you wait for someone else's decision rather than buy one from 3 rivers if you're looking for immediate purchase? No offense BBG. Just curious.

come on folks we need wayy more screen shots than this.....whats goin on.......you guys just sleepin with these things or what??

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by nodoubt &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">come on folks we need wayy more screen shots than this.....whats goin on.......you guys just sleepin with these things or what??</TD></TR></TABLE> http://www.bassboatcentral.com/smileys/thumbsup2.gif I know there are more of these units out there.

I'm off vacation and back to work now, so that limits my time on the water. http://www.bassboatcentral.com/smileys/crying.gif

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+1 http://www.bassboatcentral.com/smileys/popcorn.gif http://www.bassboatcentral.com/smileys/popcorn.gif

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by fishin couillon &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> http://www.bassboatcentral.com/smileys/thumbsup2.gif I know there are more of these units out there.

I'm off vacation and back to work now, so that limits my time on the water. http://www.bassboatcentral.com/smileys/crying.gif </TD></TR></TABLE>

Unfortunately, I have been spending more time in the malls and cybershopping than on the water.
Man, this Christmas thing is getting in the way of my fishing! http://www.bassboatcentral.com/smileys/Laugh.gif

youve got your priorities screwed up man.... http://www.bassboatcentral.com/smileys/eek.gif

John,

I think I have figured out what is happening, but I am only making my best guess; I have not spoken to anyone who knows for a fact the area of coverage for Lowrance's LSS-1 sonar. I hope to speak to someone at Lowrance to confirm this.

Look at page 2 of this thread, at the "Big Ass Tree" image by Fishin' Couillon. If you look at Fishin's Big Ass Tree photo on the downscan, you see that the tree is on the bottom in 23 feet of water. If you look at the side scan image, you also see that on the left image of the tree and on the right image of the tree that the distance between the boat and the tree on both side images is also 23 feet.

I understand that the LSS-1 transducer actually has 3 separate crystals inside . The left crystal gathers and displays the left image, the right crystal independently gathers the right image, and the down crystal must overlap both to some degree for an independent detailed down image.

To me that signifies that the LSS-1 side imaging literally sees with the left crystal everything to the left side of the boat all the way to straight under the boat. Same with the right side. So the "Big Ass Tree" must be straight under the boat, so it appears on both side images. On the side image display that Fishin' shows, the distance between the boat in the center and the tree to the side image is exactly 23 feet, the same distance as the downscan. So it must be working as I suspect.

The side image scale is set to 50 feet in his picture, so the field of view shows everything to the side of the boat from straight under the boat out to an additional 27 feet (the 50 foot scale is displaying 50 feet of image from the transducer itself, to 50 feet out from the transducer; as opposed to 50 feet of bottom distance). Since the tree is in 23 feet, subtract 23-feet from the 50-feet (which is the scale setting) and that leaves 27-feet of view remaining out from the tree of bottom view.

Hopefully that is written so it makes sense?

ciao,
Marc

Marc, now that is some deep thought there. I do understand all, well put.

Jason

Marc,

After we talked about this a while back I looked around and I found a video. I think you almost hit it on the head. I think sidescan does not cover the area directly under the boat. It goes out to the left or right at 85 degree angles and downscan goes straight down. That is why the sidescan image is very dark directly under the boat. Look at this video and see what you think. Bill

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ouZdcssm-u4

Here is a second video that supports the first and gives some other info on operation.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v...lated

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Modified by rgrbill at 7:16 PM 12/23/2009

yawwwwwwnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn......come on boys......lets see some shots.... http://www.bassboatcentral.com/smileys/ohwell.gif http://www.bassboatcentral.com/smileys/ohwell.gif http://www.bassboatcentral.com/smileys/eyes.gif