No yamaha’s

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Originally Posted by Highcentered

You couldn't pay me to have another 2-stroke but 2-stroke smell also gives me a headache. Now if the smell of 2-stroke makes you horny that's a whole other matter in itself:eek:

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It doesn’t do anything for me except work. I have nothing against 4 strokes either. But with the cost of a new one, unless mine ends up in half or at the bottom of a lake I’ll just keep running it.

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Originally Posted by Highcentered

You couldn't pay me to have another 2-stroke but 2-stroke smell also gives me a headache.

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That's something an old woman would say.

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Originally Posted by bassfisher444

That's something an old woman would say.

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I'm getting cantankerous with age. GET OFF MY LAWN!

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Originally Posted by Wackyjig

The engine itself is the same in both Sho and F series. The differences are the lower units, tilt/trim, and ecu tuning.

The reason F series run for thousands upon thousands of hours is because of how they're ran, not because of how they're built. Salt guys will run them for hours at a time at 4-5k.
Bass guys run them for minutes at 6k with no warmup or cool down.

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the upper hp motors are not are the same,,, with the exception of the 150hp motors and they are the same ,, but the SHO and the gray F series have different blocks , ( F series has removable liner sleeves ) the SHO's have some type of coating on the block itself and no sleeves ,,, the bore and stroke is different making for more displacement on the SHO motors ,,,,, and the F Series weighs about a hundred pounds more

Mercury #1 on the water and #1 in the shop! This has been my experience.

I've had a Yamaha for my bass boats for years (about thirty years) with no problems. Bought a Merc (about three years ago) for my pontoon boat and the alternator went out on it on Father's Day of this year. It took over a month to get one in from Mercury. It was the first Mercury I ever purchased. Might be the last.

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Originally Posted by davesz518

Mercury #1 on the water and #1 in the shop! This has been my experience.

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Friends don't let friends own Mercury's. An old Merc marketing slogan, 98% of Mercury Engines sold are still on the water the other 2% made it back to the dock.

Mercurys are still being built :laugh:

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Originally Posted by happykamper

I have owned over 20 boats with Mercury engines, zero, zilch, nada problems with any of them, did have a compressor go out on one but it was covered by warranty. Nothing against a Yammy dam good engines, they are just not near as sexy as a Mercury.

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The compressor failing kind of negates zero, zilch, nada:confused2:

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Originally Posted by castforcash

The compressor failing kind of negates zero, zilch, nada:confused2:

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That’s true lol.

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Originally Posted by castforcash

The compressor failing kind of negates zero, zilch, nada:confused2:

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Maybe I should have said after warranty, I guess those yammies never ever need any engine components. I wish I would have bought a yammie a few years back, as much oil as they make I would have been rich by now. :nanner:

When was the last time you had a motor long enough that it was out of warranty??? :laugh:

https://www.bbcboards.net/showthread...1#post13190156

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Originally Posted by basscat tyler

When was the last time you had a motor long enough that it was out of warranty??? :laugh:

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You make a good point, probably could count on one hand and have a couple extra digits to spare.

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Originally Posted by basscat tyler

When was the last time you had a motor long enough that it was out of warranty??? :laugh:

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I find it funny when someone brags about never blowing an engine but they also buy new and only keep it a few years before buying the next new one. EVERYTHING will fail if you keep it long enough.

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Originally Posted by happykamper

Maybe I should have said after warranty, I guess those yammies never ever need any engine components. I wish I would have bought a yammie a few years back, as much oil as they make I would have been rich by now. :nanner:

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My Mercury 4-stroke didn't make oil once I got the rings seated in good. Only time will tell if my SHO will get the rings seated good. Once I know I'm past the first 10 hours I'll do it like my Mercury and run it wide open for 30-45 minutes straight. My Mercury made oil until I did that.

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Originally Posted by happykamper

You make a good point, probably could count on one hand and have a couple extra digits to spare.

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:laugh: I know you turn your rigs fairly regularly. It’s all good :beers:

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Originally Posted by happykamper

Maybe I should have said after warranty, I guess those yammies never ever need any engine components. I wish I would have bought a yammie a few years back, as much oil as they make I would have been rich by now. :nanner:

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I have a 2011 250 PROXS, 2nd owner with around 620 hours. I've put a ton of money into it during my 11 years of owning it. Upper mounts, compressor, oil pump, gear case rebuild and so forth. I've been saving for a repower and will most likely go with a Suzuki when I do.

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Originally Posted by castforcash

I have a 2011 250 PROXS, 2nd owner with around 620 hours. I've put a ton of money into it during my 11 years of owning it. Upper mounts, compressor, oil pump, gear case rebuild and so forth. I've been saving for a repower and will most likely go with a Suzuki when I do.

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Yamaha SHO is the best option on the market right now.

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Originally Posted by bassfisher444

Yamaha SHO is the best option on the market right now.

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Why do you say that? If you're talking about speed and performance I might agree, but according to the research I've done Suzuki is more reliable hands down.

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Originally Posted by castforcash

Why do you say that? If you're talking about speed and performance I might agree, but according to the research I've done Suzuki is more reliable hands down.

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They haven't even been in the bass boat market long enough to prove that, there is about 20 times more Yamahas out there so you will hear about them having more problems.

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Originally Posted by bassfisher444

They haven't even been in the bass boat market long enough to prove that, there is about 20 times more Yamahas out there so you will hear about them having more problems.

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Their reputation in the Salt world is enough proof for me. Yamaha F series are just as good, but that isn't the same as a SHO. There are quite a few pros running Suzuki now. Not nearly as many as Mercury or SHO'S and I get that as some guys don't want to give up speed.

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Originally Posted by castforcash

Why do you say that? If you're talking about speed and performance I might agree, but according to the research I've done Suzuki is more reliable hands down.

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Some people will choose 1-2mph extra in favor of better reliability over time. If I would have had a choice I would have probably chosen a Suzy. I find it funny how both of the boats I've bought new didn't come with a choice of motor. If I have to repower my Xpress and the SHO turns out to be a turd Suzy and Merc will be my two choices if they stay as good as they are now. Only advantage I see with the black motor is there's a service center a stone's throw away everywhere in the south.

skeeter i think is the only boat being sold with a Yamaha on it , Yamaha owns skeeter , so i would assume that has alot to do with the other boats being sold with the mercury, which puts alot of merc motors out there ,

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Originally Posted by darryl1966

skeeter i think is the only boat being sold with a Yamaha on it , Yamaha owns skeeter , so i would assume that has alot to do with the other boats being sold with the mercury, which puts alot of merc motors out there ,

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Xpress and G3 only come with a Yamaha also. I think G3 is also owned by Yamaha but with Xpress that's just what they choose to rig all their boats with.

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Originally Posted by darryl1966

skeeter i think is the only boat being sold with a Yamaha on it , Yamaha owns skeeter , so i would assume that has alot to do with the other boats being sold with the mercury, which puts alot of merc motors out there ,

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You can get a Yamaha, on Bass Cat, Phoenix, Vexus, Avid, G3, Xpress, Caymas, Falcon and a few others. Pretty much any brand that isn't owned by WRM or Brunswick.

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Originally Posted by bassfisher444

You can get a Yamaha, on Bass Cat, Phoenix, Vexus, Avid, G3, Xpress, Caymas, Falcon and a few others. Pretty much any brand that isn't owned by WRM or Brunswick.

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I think he meant a boat where you don't have a choice like with Tracker and Mercury.

There is nothing at all wrong about owning a Yamaha, you are never going to convince me that there is something wrong with owning a Mercury.

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Originally Posted by Highcentered

My Mercury 4-stroke didn't make oil once I got the rings seated in good. Only time will tell if my SHO will get the rings seated good. Once I know I'm past the first 10 hours I'll do it like my Mercury and run it wide open for 30-45 minutes straight. My Mercury made oil until I did that.

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My ‘14 SHO 250 does not have any leak by. Owner before me was a tournament angler and the boat had 148hrs. on it. I have had it for a year,178 hrs now, and it has not “made oil” Yamaha dealer told me to “run the piss outta it, you wont have any oil issues”

All I can say in the past couple years there have been a ton of used Mercury's for sale

I've owned both and have no issues with either

I do love the sound of the new mercs when they fire up

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Originally Posted by Dixie-Raven

To me it seems they all have issues and it's a roll of the dice. However, if was repowering or looking to buy new I would strongly look into the Suzuki motors. They seem pretty reliable I have heard. Problem is finding someone to support them when needed.

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Is it truely reliable or is it you don't hear about issues? Heck i don't even read anything about Suzuki's, mainly cause i don't care, unless they get a bigger network of dealers who can service them.