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11-29-2023, 08:06 AM
Bill2e

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Originally Posted by Meadows

Pac 12 will be gone at the end of this year, which would leave 4 conference champions and 4 at large. :thumb up2:

Still much better than the 12-team playoff. Judging by current rankings Oklahoma would be in. They lost to Kansas. Lose to Kansas and you don't deserve the CFB Playoff in my opinion.

6 is still the right number, let two of the G5 in. 2 at large is plenty. If ND wants to bitch they can join a conference.
11-29-2023, 08:06 AM
BassinPaPaw

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Originally Posted by janky

I saw one bracket that if we had 12 teams today it would have Tulane in. That is a waste and flawed.

12 is way too many. 8 is perfect.
11-29-2023, 08:07 AM
Meadows

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Originally Posted by BassDaggett

So you are going to miss empty stadiums with bowl games pitting a 5-7 team versus a 6-6 team? Maybe you miss the good ole days when they voted for the National Title instead of played for it like HS, D-I FCS, D-II, D-III, NFL, every other sport? How about the BCS where we let computers help determine combined with the good ol fashioned and unflappable 'eye test'.

If the 'many teams that don’t deserve to wash the jocks of the top teams' get in, that shouldn't be an issue for the top teams as they will just need to take care of business. And by my math, most part of those 'many teams' should be in the Top 12 or close (depending on conference championships). A few more games pitting Top 12is teams seems like the kind of tradition I'd prefer versus the current meaningless bowl games.

I'm not saying I disagree with you, but with meaningless bowl games there'd also be just as many meaningless regular season games.
11-29-2023, 08:08 AM
Meadows

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Originally Posted by Bill2e

6 is still the right number, let to of the G5 in. 2 at large is plenty. If ND wants to bitch they can join a conference.

:thumb up2:
11-29-2023, 08:18 AM
Meadows

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Originally Posted by g2072

Everybody tune in to the SEC championship this Saturday. It will be the real National Championship game. The one that won't happen because they feel the need to push different conferences and regions instead of putting the four best teams in. Id much rather see Michigan, Georgia, Ohio State and Alabama. At least the games would be fairly competitive instead of the beatdown that's coming if Washington or Florida State gets in. Maybe Oregon will take care of Washington and can be half way competitive.

Well Michigan just played OSU and beat them, and UGA/Bama play this weekend. So you're saying they should all play each other multiple times to see who is the National Champion?? I personally think Oregon is the best team in the country right now and would hang 40 on UGA.
11-29-2023, 08:21 AM
GOTTA BIG SACK

They should go to 6 teams and use the old BCS system to determine them.
11-29-2023, 08:25 AM
janky

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Originally Posted by Meadows

Well Michigan just played OSU and beat them, and UGA/Bama play this weekend. So you're saying they should all play each other multiple times to see who is the National Champion?? I personally think Oregon is the best team in the country right now and would hang 40 on UGA.

I don't think Oregon is the best in the country. They played one real team and lost. LSU has a Pac 12 transfer inside linebacker. He was all conference at Oregon State. When I tell you he is the worst linebacker I have ever seen, I mean it. He is slow in the SEC. He had zero tackles for loss this season. In the Texas A&M game he accomplished something that I didn't even know was possible. He missed three tackles on the same play. Think about that for a minute. That is the kind of talent that Oregon is facing week in and week out.
11-29-2023, 08:26 AM
BassDaggett

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Originally Posted by Meadows

I'm not saying I disagree with you, but with meaningless bowl games there'd also be just as many meaningless regular season games.

I don't see how the 'new' playoff system leads to more meaningless regular season games? I actually believe there will be less meaningless regular season games, assuming 'meaningless' to be defined as a game that doesn't impact the CFP/Top12.
11-29-2023, 08:30 AM
Meadows

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Originally Posted by janky

I don't think Oregon is the best in the country. They played one real team and lost. LSU has a Pac 12 transfer inside linebacker. He was all conference at Oregon State. When I tell you he is the worst linebacker I have ever seen, I mean it. He is slow in the SEC. He had zero tackles for loss this season. In the Texas A&M game he accomplished something that I didn't even know was possible. He missed three tackles on the same play. Think about that for a minute. That is the kind of talent that Oregon is facing week in and week out.

They beat 3 ranked teams and absolutely obliterated everyone they played, and lost to Washington by 3 on the road at the last minute.
11-29-2023, 08:31 AM
GOTTA BIG SACK

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Originally Posted by Meadows

They beat 3 ranked teams and absolutely obliterated everyone they played, and lost to Washington by 3 on the road at the last minute.

Where are those teams they beat ranked now?
11-29-2023, 08:32 AM
Meadows

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Originally Posted by BassDaggett

I don't see how the 'new' playoff system leads to more meaningless regular season games? I actually believe there will be less meaningless regular season games, assuming 'meaningless' to be defined as a game that doesn't impact the CFP/Top12.

As I mentioned earlier, Alabama losing to Texas won't matter because they'll still be in the top 12. Oklahoma losing to Kansas won't matter, because they'll still be in the top 12. Penn St losing to the only two good teams they play won't matter because they'll still be in the top 12. Which makes all of those games meaningless.
11-29-2023, 08:37 AM
HawkDriver

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Originally Posted by Meadows

Every other college sport has 2-3 times as many games as college football, so there's more room for error. That's an apples and oranges comparison.

Playoffs in EVERY other level of football…apples to apples
11-29-2023, 08:38 AM
Meadows

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Originally Posted by GOTTA BIG SACK

Where are those teams they beat ranked now?

Doesn't matter. They're crushing every team they play - it's not their fault if the team falls off after the fact. They're still playing in the Pac12 championship and every podcast I've listened to agrees that they have the best offense in the country.
11-29-2023, 08:41 AM
Meadows

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Originally Posted by HawkDriver

Playoffs in EVERY other level of football…apples to apples

Sure. Oklahoma, it's okay that you lost to Kansas - come on it to the Playoffs anyway because you had one meaningful win out of 12 games. Heck let's just make it a 24 team playoff. Clemson you just had one of your worst records in the past decade, but you're Clemson and we think you'd be a good fit in the playoffs. Where does it stop?
11-29-2023, 08:49 AM
janky

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Originally Posted by Meadows

They beat 3 ranked teams and absolutely obliterated everyone they played, and lost to Washington by 3 on the road at the last minute.

They played 2 defenses all year ranked in the top 50. They played 4 ranked in the bottom 30. I would hope they put up some numbers.
11-29-2023, 08:51 AM
janky

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Originally Posted by Meadows

Doesn't matter. They're crushing every team they play - it's not their fault if the team falls off after the fact. They're still playing in the Pac12 championship and every podcast I've listened to agrees that they have the best offense in the country.

Best offense in the country? The actual numbers say otherwise.
11-29-2023, 08:54 AM
HawkDriver

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Originally Posted by Meadows

Sure. Oklahoma, it's okay that you lost to Kansas - come on it to the Playoffs anyway because you had one meaningful win out of 12 games. Heck let's just make it a 24 team playoff. Clemson you just had one of your worst records in the past decade, but you're Clemson and we think you'd be a good fit in the playoffs. Where does it stop?

Yeah…they Alamo bowl is going to be super exciting, much more so than seeing OU in a playoff
11-29-2023, 08:57 AM
Meadows

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Originally Posted by HawkDriver

Yeah…they Alamo bowl is going to be super exciting, much more so than seeing OU in a playoff

You're not wrong, but that still doesn't mean OU deserves a playoff bid.
11-29-2023, 08:58 AM
Meadows

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Originally Posted by janky

Best offense in the country? The actual numbers say otherwise.

The actual numbers show that they are 2nd in the country in literally every offensive statistic. And they could put up more, but every game is a blowout so they switch gears in the 4th quarter.
11-29-2023, 09:04 AM
HawkDriver

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Originally Posted by Meadows

You're not wrong, but that still doesn't mean OU deserves a playoff bid.

They don’t this year, but they would most likely be in next year. And that’s better than watching them play Arizona with half the roster sitting out. More than likely (if we use this year) they’d open up with OSU, Bama, or Texas. That’s worse than watching them play in an empty stadium vs Arizona?

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