05 HPDI 250 and NMEA

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Originally Posted by MichAngler

Now I really feel like an idiot!
THANK YOU!

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HA! Welcome to my world.

What was I doing? eh nevermind :roll:

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Everything is up and running I got a lot of new data to look at

Not sure I like knowing how many hours I have on the motor LOL

I assume I need sensors for some of the stuff that's not showing Trim, fuel and water pressure

But I have what I was really wanting "Motor Temp" as I plan to let it warm up before throttling up from now on

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Originally Posted by MichAngler

Follow up

Everything is up and running I got a lot of new data to look at

Not sure I like knowing how many hours I have on the motor LOL

I assume I need sensors for some of the stuff that's not showing Trim, fuel and water pressure

But I have what I was really wanting "Motor Temp" as I plan to let it warm up before throttling up from now on

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I have a 09 175 HPDI. For trim, there are 2 pink wires in the bottom of the cowling to connect, IDK if yours will have these.

Does yours show fuel flow? If so, you will need a storage device, it may be called something else now. It stores your fuel tank capacity and fuel burned. If it doesn't show fuel flow, they used to have a fuel flow sensor that installed in fuel line, and it had memory. Not sure if that's available anymore.

For water pressure, you will have to get a pressure sensor and install it in your WP line.

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Originally Posted by mikeky

I have a 09 175 HPDI. For trim, there are 2 pink wires in the bottom of the cowling to connect, IDK if yours will have these.

Does yours show fuel flow? If so, you will need a storage device, it may be called something else now. It stores your fuel tank capacity and fuel burned. If it doesn't show fuel flow, they used to have a fuel flow sensor that installed in fuel line, and it had memory. Not sure if that's available anymore.

For water pressure, you will have to get a pressure sensor and install it in your WP line.

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I believe it does have the pink wires I did see 2 pig tails next to the NMEA plug when I was in there and I may try that but I have an analog trim gauge already so that’s not a priority

When you ask about fuel flow I’m assuming you mean the readouts and I believe it does it has a fuel economy readout as well but I didn’t notice if it was working
I wouldn’t mind getting that working just to see what speed, trim and setup that would get me the best fuel economy
But I’m not sure what you are referring too when you say I need a "storage device"

As for water pressure again I have an analog gauge for that as well so not a priority

If you connect the two single pink wires, so as to get engine trim information on the digital data line, you will need to disconnect the analog trim gauge.

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Originally Posted by yam911

If you connect the two single pink wires, so as to get engine trim information on the digital data line, you will need to disconnect the analog trim gauge.

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Good to know Thank You!

I'd rather keep my analog gauge

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Originally Posted by MichAngler

I believe it does have the pink wires I did see 2 pig tails next to the NMEA plug when I was in there and I may try that but I have an analog trim gauge already so that’s not a priority

When you ask about fuel flow I’m assuming you mean the readouts and I believe it does it has a fuel economy readout as well but I didn’t notice if it was working
I wouldn’t mind getting that working just to see what speed, trim and setup that would get me the best fuel economy
But I’m not sure what you are referring too when you say I need a "storage device"

As for water pressure again I have an analog gauge for that as well so not a priority

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The storage device keeps track of fuel flow and usage, it is now called a Fuel Data Manager. Your motor may supply fuel usage info, the data manager does all of the math to store fuel usage, fuel remaining, etc. I can't remember the exact steps, but when you add fuel, if you filled the tank then you enter refill, if a partial fill then you add the gallons.

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Originally Posted by MichAngler

Good to know Thank You!

I'd rather keep my analog gauge

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I seem to prefer the analog gauge also.

Is this compatible to hooking up a new SHO to Hummingbird Helix units?

Just have to ask about mine please. It's a 2005 HPDI VZ225. Really hoping to get RPM's reading. I have the white plug on motor. I ran the lowrance cable from the white plug on the motor to
the back of the at console Lowrance HDS 9 unit's NMEA 2000 port. I don't get anything on the data page, but maybe did get volts not sure.?? Did I miss something? Thanks.

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Originally Posted by rid 05 198

Just have to ask about mine please. It's a 2005 HPDI VZ225. Really hoping to get RPM's reading. I have the white plug on motor. I ran the lowrance cable from the white plug on the motor to
the back of the at console Lowrance HDS 9 unit's NMEA 2000 port. I don't get anything on the data page, but maybe did get volts not sure.?? Did I miss something? Thanks.

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The cable needs to connect to a NMEA network, not directly to the unit. It sounds like you connected to the unit.

If you don't have a NMEA network, get a NMEA 2000 starter kit.

I see the diagram now..... My boats wires leading to the back of HDS unit reads NMEA 2000 power. ? Thats why I didn't use a backbone. ?
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Thanks.

You need to buy this
https://www.lowrance.com/lowrance/ty...-cstarter-kit/


Then you need to set it up like this

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Originally Posted by rid 05 198

I see the diagram now..... My boats wires leading to the back of HDS unit reads NMEA 2000 power. ? Thats why I didn't use a backbone. ?
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That's for an older network that was powered by the head unit. First, determine if you have a network. If not, get a starter kit.

Oh ok thanks.

Now I have the nmea 2000 network hooked up and the HDS Data page shows no change, with just the SOG highlighted, same as before being hooked up, as seen in pix. Then I turned on the key and still no change with anything on Data page. Does the motor need to be running for anything to light up? Also in the choose data page I don't see the engine hour selection anywhere.? And also the white plug on the motor that I plugged into only has two wires at the back of it.? Does that look right? Thanks for any help.
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Originally Posted by rid 05 198

Now I have the nmea 2000 network hooked up and the HDS Data page shows no change, with just the SOG highlighted, same as before being hooked up, as seen in pix. Then I turned on the key and still no change with anything on Data page. Does the motor need to be running for anything to light up? Also in the choose data page I don't see the engine hour selection anywhere.? And also the white plug on the motor that I plugged into only has two wires at the back of it.? Does that look right? Thanks for any help.
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The motor does not have to be running, but the key has to be on to send data to the network. Can you post a diagram of your network backbone, or explain how it's laid out?

This is strange Mine was working for a week after I got it installed and now nothing

I checked all the connections and the 12v all though I don't think this setup requires 12v

other than doing continuity tests on the cables and swapping T's and terminators I'm clueless

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Originally Posted by mikeky

The motor does not have to be running, but the key has to be on to send data to the network. Can you post a diagram of your network backbone, or explain how it's laid out?

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Thanks. I ran power wire straight to battery. Two T's, (one T not showing in photo). Line from motor in, drop cable out to HDS. ? And with the key on I did the old wiggle test on the cords. ?
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