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Quick question: I have about 73 hours on my SHO and had all the bulletin done at the 20 hour service. I had a little extra oil but nothing too bad.
I finished up my tournament trail and decided to check the oil level. When I pulled the dip stick (Several times) and the oil line was about 2 1/2 inches above the second hole.
How much oil should I extract? Should I take it to the dealer to get checked?
I have not had any problems with the motor, runs as good as the day I brought it home.
It's covered under warranty I'd take it authorized yamaha dealer and let them look at it.
What position was your motor in when you checked the dip stick? http://www.bassboatcentral.com/smileys/thumbsup2.gif
It was trimmed down and level. I even took the cap off the top to make sure the pressure was released.
Seemed like a lot of oil, but did not smell like gas. Ill get it to the dealer in the next couple weeks.
I would not run the motor until the oil has been changed. That oil has been compromised with what ever it is that is extra in the oil.....
Spider,
I am running the same boat and motor as you and I as well experienced exactly the same thing at 17 hours with my oil being 2 1/2 - 3 inches above the high level mark. I immediately drained(not syphoned) my oil and changed the oil and filter.I set the oil level exactky half way between low/high level holes on dip stick. After the oil change I ran my motor hard and for 6 hours no oil contamination. At 6 1/2 hours checked oil and it was again 1" above high mark. So as instructed by Yamaha I syphoned off +/- 1 quart of oil to get the oil level sitting half way between low and high level holes on the dip stick. So far I have not made more oil but I am watching it closely. I would suggest getting the contaminated oil out of your motor and putting in new oil and filter. I feel as a SHO owner Yamaha should foot the bill for these $150 oil changes that are happening prematurely due to contamination. What prop are you turning on your 201 EVO. I ran the 25t1 Ventless but turned too many R's 6100 so I went to a 27 t1 Ventless and now I am at 5900-6000 at 78.8 mph. Hope this helps.
Get it to a shop. And get that bad oil out of there. Do not extract it from the top, completely drain it from the bottom, it is contaminated with gasoline.
Charlie 206 hit the nail on the head. Make sure to change the filter also. He is 100% correct. GOOD LUCK http://www.bassboatcentral.com/smileys/sweating.gif
I have ordered 7 quarts of the new synthetic oil and an oil filter. I will completely drain everything out and get it changed.
Yeah $110 later. This is BS since I just had the oil changed a few months ago.
I am running a 25 t1 getting about 6100 rpms. Running it hard is BS! Trust me I run the shiat out of it. She has not blown http://www.bassboatcentral.com/smileys/roll.gif
Oh one more thing. The dealer said even though it takes 7 quarts to only put 6 in and run it for 5 minutes, then tilt the motor all the way up for a few minutes and then back down level before checking the level.
He said there are so many areas for the oil to be in the motor that you might have a quart or so in there that has not come out. We will see............
If you have any questions about your engine feel free to im me. Please keep a close eye on the oil level the gas is not good. I strongly suggest taking it to the dealer and have them check out where the fuel is coming from though that is a lot of fuel. GOOD LUCK http://www.bassboatcentral.com/smileys/thumbsup2.gif
Thanks. I have a few guide trips so I have to have my boat. I am gonna change it out and keep a close eye on it. It it starts getting more in it I will take it in.
I do have one question. Is it easy to get to the drain plug. I was told it is on the starboard side at the bottom and to look for a couple allen screws.
Remove the cover on the starboard side, held on by several allen heads. The drain plug will be at the bottom of the powerhead. The oil will come out straight sideways at first, be ready for it. http://www.bassboatcentral.com/smileys/Laugh.gif
Thanks a bunch!
Holy Chit I pulled 8 1/2 quarts of oil out of my SHO! WTF!
When I drained mine @ 17hrs I got 9.2 qts. I can only imagine what kind of damage we have done internally to our SHO motor running contaminated oil. Thankfully I have 6 yrs of warranty because at this point I have no doubt we are going to need it!! My fishing partner gets a real good laugh when we get ready to go fishing and I have to syphon oil out of my $20k motor. LOL. Keep a real close check after each trip to see if and when it starts growing oil. You will need to let it set for a couple of hours to let all the oil settle to get an acurate reading. Did you fill it half way between high and low level mark on dip stick when you changed it?? I have been told by a Yamaha Test Facility Tech that is where we need to start oil level after a fresh change. Last time I put a calculator to it I believe my 4 stroke is costing a hell of a lot more for oil than HPDI !! http://www.bassboatcentral.com/smileys/roll.gif
Thst's not a surprise to me. Regardless of the attempts by some on here to steadfastly maintain that the SHO does not have any problems, some of these engines do indeed have a serious problem with oil contamination by fuel. That is why I suggessted you get it to a shop - the problem needs to be found, documented and corrected. You will shorten the life of the engine with gasoline laden oil in it.
Yeah it was a lot. I have 73 hours on the motor and I have no clue how long I have been running it like that. The tech said these SHO's run with such a high oil pressure it is not good to run them with too much oil/gas. I have 6 years as well, so I am gonna take it in and still drive the hell out if it.
Mine did not smell like gas at all though....The oil was so high when I unscrewed the top lid I could touch oil with my finger about 1 inch down.
There are only two substances entering the engine as it runs - air and gasoline. So if we can agree that it is physically impossible for any engine to "make oil", then the rising oil level has to be from contamination, either by air or gas. The air thing won't Fly, pun intended. Therefore there is no doubt that gasoline is getting past the rings and mixing with the oil. As each week passes more and more folks post here that they are having this problem with their SHO, so there is no doubt in my mind that there is an unresolved issue with SOME of these engines. Some of them don't have this problem apparently, which makes the whole subject matter interesting. As Yamaha is not about to publicly admit this problem for fear of hurting sales, it may be a long time before there is any definitive answer to the cause of the problem, although one Yamaha certified master tech has posted some potential causes.
Atmospheric air primarily consists of nitrogen, oxygen and water. Its most likely water that is accumulating in the oil. An internal combustion engine produces 6lbs of h20 for every lb of gas that it burns. Send a sample to Blackstone labs for an oil analysis.
<table width="90%" cellspacing=0 cellpadding=0 align=center><tr><td>Quote, originally posted by Charlie206 »</td></tr><tr><td class="quote">There are only two substances entering the engine as it runs - air and gasoline. So if we can agree that it is physically impossible for any engine to "make oil", then the rising oil level has to be from contamination, either by air or gas. The air thing won't Fly, pun intended. Therefore there is no doubt that gasoline is getting past the rings and mixing with the oil. As each week passes more and more folks post here that they are having this problem with their SHO, so there is no doubt in my mind that there is an unresolved issue with SOME of these engines. Some of them don't have this problem apparently, which makes the whole subject matter interesting. As Yamaha is not about to publicly admit this problem for fear of hurting sales, it may be a long time before there is any definitive answer to the cause of the problem, although one Yamaha certified master tech has posted some potential causes.</td></tr></table>
That's an interesting theory also. I've seen the oil coming out of a SHO with this problem and there was no visual indication of water. I felt that 1 qt water per 7 qt oil would yield a visually detectable discoloration but that was not present. And some who have posted indicated the odor of gas in the oil, although I did not detect that. It isn't worth the cost / trouble of a lab test with the engine under warranty. That won't happen unless this turns into a "class action", and I doubt that would happen, I can't remember that ever happening with any outboard.